POTUS24 Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 How did Zahel break his connection with Nalthis? And why are the ghostbloods uninterested in him? I feel like he would be WAY more useful as someone who as pulled it off as opposed to someone who is equally stuck in one system. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 Returned follow different rules due to the nature of Endowment’s Investiture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 Hi, no Rhythm of War content outside the Rhythm of War boards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 12 hours ago, POTUS24 said: How did Zahel break his connection with Nalthis? He did not need to. Breath does not stay bound to its system. Endowment's investiture sticks to the soul of the person it is attached to. 12 hours ago, POTUS24 said: And why are the ghostbloods uninterested in him? How do you know they are? They also just might not know about him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS24 Posted December 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/19/2020 at 10:25 PM, Karger said: He did not need to. Breath does not stay bound to its system. Endowment's investiture sticks to the soul of the person it is attached to. How do you know they are? They also just might not know about him. That makes way more sense thank you. I don't know but it also doesn't seem like they are. I have a very hard time believing that they don't based on how connected they are in general. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 12 hours ago, POTUS24 said: I don't know but it also doesn't seem like they are. I have a very hard time believing that they don't based on how connected they are in general. I may as well paraphrase Hoid. Just because they know almost everything does not mean they know any particular piece of information. They might also know but have just concluded Zahel won't work with them. He is immune to most forms of bribery, blackmail, and intimidation. Also he would make a really nasty enemy. 12 hours ago, POTUS24 said: That makes way more sense thank you No problem. It is a bit confusing I admit. As a fun side note Mraize probably has breath himself(he seems to have a life sense). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvamoca Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 Can I piggyback on this and ask does anyone know why Vasher and Nightblood parted- is that in a book or short story or was in in Dawnshard or a WOB? I enjoyed Warbreaker so much, he's one of my favourite cranky characters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarTorSan Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Karger said: As a fun side note Mraize probably has breath himself(he seems to have a life sense). I keep gawking at how you guys keep inferring this kind of stuff from every little piece of information Brandon gives us readers. 2 hours ago, cvamoca said: Can I piggyback on this and ask does anyone know why Vasher and Nightblood parted- is that in a book or short story or was in in Dawnshard or a WOB? I enjoyed Warbreaker so much, he's one of my favourite cranky characters. In the State of the Sanderson 2020, he said what's on the quote below, so we probably won't be getting any new Warbreaker or Elantris books before 2025... But I hope he changes his mind because Warbreaker is also one of my favorite Cosmere books! Quote ELANTRIS, WARBREAKER, RITHMATIST As you probably expected, no motion here. I didn’t plan for there to be any this year, though all three should get a sequel eventually. I’ve been targeting the post-Stormligh-Five timeline for these. I could see slipping Rithmatist 2 in between Mistborn Era 3 books, for example, when I need a break. Status: No motion (Sorry again.) Edited December 21, 2020 by CarTorSan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 2 hours ago, CarTorSan said: I keep gawking at how you guys keep inferring this kind of stuff from every little piece of information Brandon gives us readers. Yes but I am not sure you want to. It basically involves reading so much cosmere that you dream it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS24 Posted December 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Karger said: Yes but I am not sure you want to. It basically involves reading so much cosmere that you dream it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS24 Posted December 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 On 12/19/2020 at 10:25 PM, Karger said: He did not need to. Breath does not stay bound to its system. Endowment's investiture sticks to the soul of the person it is attached to. How do you know they are? They also just might not know about him. Here's a WoB which I think validates my point about Zahel having to have a specific method to get off of Nalthis. Questioner Have we seen cameos of Heralds on other Shardworlds? Brandon Sanderson The Heralds are tied to the system by the magic that permeates them. They could not leave. Questioner I thought I saw someone but I guess not. Brandon Sanderson It’s part of the magic. Some would call them Cognitive Shadows, right? Whether they are or not. "Cognitive Shadow" is a very ambiguous term in the cosmere. It means, basically your soul-- It's the same thing with petrification, right? Investiture replaced your soul, and permeated your soul, and your soul continues to exist, but... you are usually Invested with something, that's tied, and you're basically like pure Investiture then. You're tied to the thing you're Connected to. Most of the things that you're gonna see with that, travelling is going to be very difficult, unless you know how to do it. You have seen people do it. Questioner Who? Brandon Sanderson Vasher Brandon Sanderson Vasher... You have seen people do it. But anyone who's got-- yeah. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/36/#e1537 So yes the breath of life is canonically not connected to Nalthis and that's why we see lots of people using it around Roshar. But because the returned are "petrified" it should be difficult for them to leave the system. So I think the idea that the GB know he's not going to spill the beans is valid. But I have a hard time believing they don't have a close eye on him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, POTUS24 said: So yes the breath of life is canonically not connected to Nalthis and that's why we see lots of people using it around Roshar. But because the returned are "petrified" it should be difficult for them to leave the system Not really. The petrifying investiture is still breath in their case. It just manifests a bit differently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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