Dark_Sun77 Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 My theory: The "Girl that looked up" is a story of travel from Nalthis to Roshar and then the bringing back of Stormlight to Nalthis. Read the story in both places, in the chapter called "the girl that looked up" (pg. 256) and again when Wit talks about it with Shallan (pg. 789) in "the girl who stood up" and you will see the details. The girl's hair is white hair. The mention of all the gruesome statues. The "vibrant red scarf" that flaps in the phantom wind that she wears that is mentioned all the time. The mention of seeing colors for the first time. Etc... "The Wall" in this interpretation would be shadesmar. Read both stories and I believe you will see the interesting details. Lot's of implications if this is true. One such would be that perhaps Nalthis' shards were splintered as this is known as the "land of darkness." From the land of "colors" to the "land of darkness." This would make sense knowing what happened to Sel. Wit's version of the story seems to me to focus on the bringing of stormlight from one side of the wall (Roshar) "to the other side" (Nalthis). This is exactly what the Ghostbloods are trying to do. 3
dgreene196 Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 Except, aren't we pretty (mostly absolutely) sure that Endowment, the Shard on Nalthis is not only alive, but wrote Hoid a letter in Oathbringer? It's also the one planet we're aware of where everyone there is born with the potential to use the Invested magic system, so long as they can get sufficient Breath. I'm not sure that's true anywhere else (Sel may be an exception). 2
Halyo_Alex he/him Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 2 hours ago, dgreene196 said: Except, aren't we pretty (mostly absolutely) sure that Endowment, the Shard on Nalthis is not only alive, but wrote Hoid a letter in Oathbringer? It's also the one planet we're aware of where everyone there is born with the potential to use the Invested magic system, so long as they can get sufficient Breath. I'm not sure that's true anywhere else (Sel may be an exception). Yep.
LifeBeforeDeath Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/3/2020 at 6:27 AM, Dark_Sun77 said: My theory: The "Girl that looked up" is a story of travel from Nalthis to Roshar and then the bringing back of Stormlight to Nalthis. Read the story in both places, in the chapter called "the girl that looked up" (pg. 256) and again when Wit talks about it with Shallan (pg. 789) in "the girl who stood up" and you will see the details. The girl's hair is white hair. The mention of all the gruesome statues. The "vibrant red scarf" that flaps in the phantom wind that she wears that is mentioned all the time. The mention of seeing colors for the first time. Etc... "The Wall" in this interpretation would be shadesmar. Read both stories and I believe you will see the interesting details. Lot's of implications if this is true. One such would be that perhaps Nalthis' shards were splintered as this is known as the "land of darkness." From the land of "colors" to the "land of darkness." This would make sense knowing what happened to Sel. Wit's version of the story seems to me to focus on the bringing of stormlight from one side of the wall (Roshar) "to the other side" (Nalthis). This is exactly what the Ghostbloods are trying to do. THAT IS SO COOL!!!! But how do you figure that's what the ghostbloods are trying to do?
LifeBeforeDeath Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 11 hours ago, Halyo_Alex said: Hey, anybody have a theory for Threnody? Did a Shard inhabit it at all?....
Ixthos Luke/Luke Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 50 minutes ago, LifeBeforeDeath said: Hey, anybody have a theory for Threnody? Did a Shard inhabit it at all?.... From Arcanum Unbound it was revealed that Ambition was there, but when Odium arrived they fought, and Ambition fled, dying somewhere else, presumably in deep space (and where I think Silverlight is now located), but leaving bits of itself behind - parts torn off in the fight with Odium - which warped the people of Threnody.
LifeBeforeDeath Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ixthos said: From Arcanum Unbound it was revealed that Ambition was there, but when Odium arrived they fought, and Ambition fled, dying somewhere else, presumably in deep space (and where I think Silverlight is now located), but leaving bits of itself behind - parts torn off in the fight with Odium - which warped the people of Threnody. *Facepalm* Can't believe I forgot... 1
Ixthos Luke/Luke Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 Just now, LifeBeforeDeath said: *Facepalm* Can't believe I forgot... We've all been there :-) 1
LifeBeforeDeath Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 Yeah... But I pride myself on being a Sanderson fanatic...*Sniff*
Dark_Sun77 Posted October 9, 2020 Author Posted October 9, 2020 Quote Quote 7 hours ago, LifeBeforeDeath said: THAT IS SO COOL!!!! But how do you figure that's what the ghostbloods are trying to do? Chapter 13: When Mraze is talking to "the Three": Spoiler Ask a better question. “Nalathis,” Radiant said. “Scadarial. What are they?” “Nalthis. Scadrial.” He spoke the words with a different accent. “Where are they. That’s an excellent question, Radiant. Suffice it to say they are places in Shadesmar where our Stormlight—so easily captured and transported—would be a valuable commodity.” Curious. She knew so little of Shadesmar, but the spren had vast cities—and she knew Stormlight was prized there. “That’s why you wanted to get to Urithiru before Jasnah. You knew the Oathgates would offer easy access to Shadesmar. You want to control commerce, travel, to these other places.” “Excellent,” Mraize said. “Trade to Roshar through Shadesmar has been historically difficult, as there is only one stable access point—one controlled by the Horneaters, who have been unpleasant to deal with. Yet Roshar has something that so many other peoples in the cosmere want: free, portable, easy-to-access power.”
LifeBeforeDeath Posted October 11, 2020 Posted October 11, 2020 Hey, anybody know how many chapters of RoW were posted?
Halyo_Alex he/him Posted October 11, 2020 Posted October 11, 2020 12 hours ago, LifeBeforeDeath said: Hey, anybody know how many chapters of RoW were posted? so far, 14.
LifeBeforeDeath Posted October 11, 2020 Posted October 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, Halyo_Alex said: so far, 14. Dang. I'm hungry for more
+Bzhydack he/him Posted October 11, 2020 Posted October 11, 2020 Just now, LifeBeforeDeath said: Dang. I'm hungry for more They are posted every Tuesday. So wait two days for next. 1
Knight of Iron she/they Posted October 11, 2020 Posted October 11, 2020 I'm a pop in on this thread as the relevant WOBs person. Relevant WOBs: Spoiler Sparkle Hearts The Girl That Looked Up. Is that a real story that happened in Roshar? Or just a metaphor? Brandon Sanderson So, Hoid heard it from someone. He did not make it up. Sparkle Hearts Because I think Shallan told the story... Brandon Sanderson Well, he told the story, too- He knew the story, she knew the story... What you're asking is if it's actually historical? Sparkle Hearts Yes. Did it happen? Brandon Sanderson I'll give you a RAFO. Because there's actually a little bit to it that I can't talk about. That probably tells you more than I even should already... There are some weird things about that story, particularly the version that Hoid is involved in. ...Shallan tells half the story, and then later on, Hoid comes, and the story happens again differently. But there are weird things when Hoid is involved in the story that are relevant. WorldCon 76 (Aug. 18, 2018) Spoiler Questioner So, with the story that Shallan told with the girl in the red scarf? Is that relevant at all? Or is it just unimportant? Brandon Sanderson Yes. That's very relevant. Footnote: The story in question is "The Girl Who Looked Up". Oathbringer Chicago signing (Nov. 21, 2017) And a few more that are RAFO's, I'm afraid. Neither yes or no. 1
ftl Posted October 11, 2020 Posted October 11, 2020 Huh. What are the differences between Shallan's and Hoid's version of the story?
+Hoiditthroughthegrapevine he/him Posted October 11, 2020 Posted October 11, 2020 52 minutes ago, ftl said: Huh. What are the differences between Shallan's and Hoid's version of the story? Pagerunner put together a very solid analysis of the differences between Shallan's and Hoid's telling of the story on this thread: 2
Dark_Sun77 Posted October 14, 2020 Author Posted October 14, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 2:38 PM, Knight of Iron said: I'm a pop in on this thread as the relevant WOBs person. Relevant WOBs: Hide contents Sparkle Hearts The Girl That Looked Up. Is that a real story that happened in Roshar? Or just a metaphor? Brandon Sanderson So, Hoid heard it from someone. He did not make it up. Sparkle Hearts Because I think Shallan told the story... Brandon Sanderson Well, he told the story, too- He knew the story, she knew the story... What you're asking is if it's actually historical? Sparkle Hearts Yes. Did it happen? Brandon Sanderson I'll give you a RAFO. Because there's actually a little bit to it that I can't talk about. That probably tells you more than I even should already... There are some weird things about that story, particularly the version that Hoid is involved in. ...Shallan tells half the story, and then later on, Hoid comes, and the story happens again differently. But there are weird things when Hoid is involved in the story that are relevant. WorldCon 76 (Aug. 18, 2018) Hide contents Questioner So, with the story that Shallan told with the girl in the red scarf? Is that relevant at all? Or is it just unimportant? Brandon Sanderson Yes. That's very relevant. Footnote: The story in question is "The Girl Who Looked Up". Oathbringer Chicago signing (Nov. 21, 2017) And a few more that are RAFO's, I'm afraid. Neither yes or no. Wow, thanks for the words of Brandon additions! They seem to actually support my suggested theory here. Love it.
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