pjmaster78 Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) It seems to be a social title, and in the third nahn. Would that be a title for any non-inheriting descendants of the second dahn? Is it a general title for those in the third dahn without another title (such as General)? Edited July 28, 2020 by pjmaster78
Channelknight Fadran Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 33 minutes ago, pjmaster78 said: It seems to be a social title, and in the third nahn. Would that be a title for any non-inheriting descendants of the second nahn? Is it a general title for those in the third nahn without another title (such as General)? I found the hierocracy on the Coppermind! Whoohoo! Dahns: 1st The King 2nd Highprinces, their direct heirs, and the King's direct heir. 3rd Generals, Highlords, and the non-inheriting children of 1st and 2nd dahn lighteyes. 4th Battalionlords. 5th Companylords, along with lower-ranked nobles. 6th Captainlords, along with the lowest-ranked nobles and landholders. 7th Lower-ranking landless officers, higher-ranking (or very wealthy) landless lighteyes. 8th Soldiers, high-ranking (or moderately wealthy) landless lighteyes. 9th Landless lighteyes with some wealth, like merchants and master craftsmen. 10th "Tenners", essentially any lighteyes who has to work for a living.
pjmaster78 Posted July 28, 2020 Author Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Channelknight Fadran said: I found the hierocracy on the Coppermind! Whoohoo! Yeah, I saw that too, but it didn't really explain much of the title itelf. We know Highprinces rule each princedom, lesser nahns can rule cities, etc. I'm more wondering if a Highlord has a certain region they are lords over, or if it's just an honorific for the third dahn. Edited July 28, 2020 by pjmaster78
Channelknight Fadran Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 Just now, pjmaster78 said: Yeah, I saw that too, but it didn't really explain much of the title itelf. We know Highprinces rule each princedom, lesser nahns can rule cities, etc. I'm more wondering if a Highlord has a certain region they are lords over, or if it's just an honorific for the third nahn. When it comes to noblehood in ye olden times, "owning land" can mean any number of things. You could own a thousand acres of land, but still be of worse social rank than the guy next door who only owns two hundred acres. Hierocracy ranks are inherited, and not directly tied to how much land you own. There's certainly a correlation--a causation, even--but you can't directly attribute any rank to a number of spheres or acres.
pjmaster78 Posted July 28, 2020 Author Posted July 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Channelknight Fadran said: Hierocracy ranks are inherited, and not directly tied to how much land you own. There's certainly a correlation--a causation, even--but you can't directly attribute any rank to a number of spheres or acres. That's a great point. Certainly a person of lower rank can have more power/land/money. Specifically, though, has the causation for the title Highlord been explained? Maybe it hasn't been answered. More specifically, is Highlord a title inherited by all sons of a Highlord? Does a lesser son of a Highprince become a Highlord? Or is it a specific title that has been granted?
Channelknight Fadran Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, pjmaster78 said: That's a great point. Certainly a person of lower rank can have more power/land/money. Specifically, though, has the causation for the title Highlord been explained? Maybe it hasn't been answered. More specifically, is Highlord a title inherited by all sons of a Highlord? Does a lesser son of a Highprince become a Highlord? Or is it a specific title that has been granted? Highlords, I'm pretty sure, are major landowners or important military figures underneath Highprinces. Take the Sadeas province: Amaram is one of the Sadeas Highlords. It's a tier thing. 1
SirNoSell Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 I believe becoming a Shardbearer automatically makes you 4th Dahn. I'm not sure whether Amaram held that rank before he achieved his shards or not.
pjmaster78 Posted July 30, 2020 Author Posted July 30, 2020 On 7/29/2020 at 0:28 PM, BrightLordSwageas said: I believe becoming a Shardbearer automatically makes you 4th Dahn. I'm not sure whether Amaram held that rank before he achieved his shards or not. Yeah, Shardbearers are 4th Dahn automatically. Amaram was already a Highlord beforehand, making him 3rd.
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