Chiberty Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) It's fixed! For those that weren't aware of the error: Spoiler Pagerunner I was at the Houston signing, and Brandon referred me to you on a few technical questions that I was asking him, since he he was quite "brain dead." First was what Surges the Bondsmiths have. Based on the ordering in the Ars Arcanum in WoR and OB, they should have Tension. But the application of the shared Surge we saw for both Stonewards and Bondsmiths in OB looks to line up more with Brandon's previous description of Cohesion from the Words of Radiance tour. (https://wob.coppermind.net/events/223/#e6061, although he did identify it as a Willshaper Surge there.) Brandon believed it was an error in the Ars Arcanum, and that Bondsmiths do have Cohesion, but he told me to confirm that with you. Peter Ahlstrom What power did you see in the book that Bondsmiths and Stonewards share? Pagerunner In Chapter 38: The Shardbearer pressed his hand against the incline leading up to the Voidbringer, and again the stone seemed to writhe. Steps formed in the rock, as if it were made of wax that could flow and be shaped. ... "And that Shardbearer I saw? A Herald?" No. Merely a Stoneward. The Surge that changed the stone is the other you may learn, though it may serve you differently. Which seems to align with how Brandon has previously described Cohesion in the past, as opposed to Tension. I assume this Surge is what Dalinar used to repair the temple of Talenel in Chapter 59, but that's not actually essential to the point. Peter Ahlstrom I think this has to be an error in the text. Pagerunner Sorry, which do you think is the error? The order of Surges in the Ars Arcanum? Or the Stormfather's statement to Dalinar? Peter Ahlstrom The Stormfather's statement. Peter Ahlstrom I have verified with Brandon that what the Stormfather said here is wrong and will be corrected in the future. General Reddit 2017 (Dec. 14, 2017) EDIT: Image didn't show Edited November 11, 2019 by ChickenLiberty 1
Chiberty Posted November 11, 2019 Author Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ChickenLiberty said: It's fixed! For those that weren't aware of the error: Reveal hidden contents Pagerunner I was at the Houston signing, and Brandon referred me to you on a few technical questions that I was asking him, since he he was quite "brain dead." First was what Surges the Bondsmiths have. Based on the ordering in the Ars Arcanum in WoR and OB, they should have Tension. But the application of the shared Surge we saw for both Stonewards and Bondsmiths in OB looks to line up more with Brandon's previous description of Cohesion from the Words of Radiance tour. (https://wob.coppermind.net/events/223/#e6061, although he did identify it as a Willshaper Surge there.) Brandon believed it was an error in the Ars Arcanum, and that Bondsmiths do have Cohesion, but he told me to confirm that with you. Peter Ahlstrom What power did you see in the book that Bondsmiths and Stonewards share? Pagerunner In Chapter 38: The Shardbearer pressed his hand against the incline leading up to the Voidbringer, and again the stone seemed to writhe. Steps formed in the rock, as if it were made of wax that could flow and be shaped. ... "And that Shardbearer I saw? A Herald?" No. Merely a Stoneward. The Surge that changed the stone is the other you may learn, though it may serve you differently. Which seems to align with how Brandon has previously described Cohesion in the past, as opposed to Tension. I assume this Surge is what Dalinar used to repair the temple of Talenel in Chapter 59, but that's not actually essential to the point. Peter Ahlstrom I think this has to be an error in the text. Pagerunner Sorry, which do you think is the error? The order of Surges in the Ars Arcanum? Or the Stormfather's statement to Dalinar? Peter Ahlstrom The Stormfather's statement. Peter Ahlstrom I have verified with Brandon that what the Stormfather said here is wrong and will be corrected in the future. General Reddit 2017 (Dec. 14, 2017) EDIT: Image didn't show Edited November 11, 2019 by ChickenLiberty Didn't try to double post; it made a new one when I uploaded the image on the edit screen. 1
Gilphon Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 Well, good to have that officially cleared up. So I believe we're back to not having any clear examples of Tension, then? Unless it's what Dalinar uses to repair stuff.
Honorless he/him Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, Gilphon said: Well, good to have that officially cleared up. So I believe we're back to not having any clear examples of Tension, then? Unless it's what Dalinar uses to repair stuff. That's both Tension and Adhesion, I think, in their Spiritual aspects. He used Spiritual Tension to sense that the wall wanted to be whole again and used Spiritual Adhesion to stick them back together. Brandon has explained Tension (the Stoneward Surge) as being used to alter stiffness, to make structures stronger or harder
Aon Tia she/her Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Honorless said: He used Spiritual Tension to sense that the wall wanted to be whole again Still sounds like spiritual adhesion to me, “something wanting to be whole again”!?
ScavellTane Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 Adhesion to make a Connection, Tension to strengthen that Connection.
Chiberty Posted November 17, 2019 Author Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) Noooooooooooooo! Quote "And my other surge?" Dalinar said. "That Radiant in the vision made stone warp and ripple." You are not ready. Besides, that surge is different for you than it is for a Stoneward. Edited November 17, 2019 by ChickenLiberty
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