Vasher's memory awakening and its greater implications in the cosmere

[twenty second of the sun]

In Warbreaker Vasher  is shown to be able to remove memories through self awakening ? 

What ? 

[+Ark1002]

55 minutes ago, twenty second of the sun said:

In Warbreaker Vasher  is shown to be able to remove memories through self awakening ? 

What ? 

mhmmmm

[Weltall]

Vasher's trick requires the person to do the Awakening on themselves, meaning they need Breath to do it. Why are you assuming it has particular applications beyond Nalthis?

As for how it works, since most things in the Cosmere that do similar things are working off a shared underlying principle, the Awakening to alter memory probably works somewhat like F-Copper, altering your Cognitive self.

[twenty second of the sun]

I am talking about how I've never seen anything like it in the cosmere ,along with it apparently requiring less than one breath to do.

 

[+TheFoxQR]

On 8/3/2019 at 8:46 AM, twenty second of the sun said:

I am talking about how I've never seen anything like it in the cosmere ,along with it apparently requiring less than one breath to do.

This would actually be extremely simple to do by any investiture that is cognitive heavy. Feruchemy has similar procedures, and that literally takes no investiture.

In fact, Breadths seem by nature specialised to do stuff like this. In awakening, the command is a cognitive imprint, which the Breadths then try their best to emulate. You literally grant cognitive capabilities to whatever you awaken. It only makes sense that if you awaken yourself, the Breadths can add to or overwrite parts of your consciousness with practically no overhead.

I have since asked a question to Brandon based on similar thoughts (in fact, when I originally had the idea, I didn't even remember Vasher doing this, my original theory was drawing on completely separate evidence):

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TheFoxQR

In awakening, can you with some mental gymnastics, view yourself as both the donor and recipient of breadths? Is this how Vasher hides his divine breadth (and consequently nature), by tucking it inside of himself rather than an external object? Theoretically, can you awaken yourself, and with the right commands enhance/extend yourself Cognitively, like how burning Atium comes with cognitive enhancements to process the raw information?

Brandon Sanderson

This is a theory worth exploring. You're not quite there, but you are on to something.

General Reddit 2019 (Aug. 3, 2019)

 

Edited August 5, 2019 by TheFoxQR

[Wandering Investor]

Not only Feruchemy, but Dalinar also had his memory wiped. In a universe with a dedicated cognitive realm, its probably not that hard to attack memories in other ways as well.

[twenty second of the sun]

On 8/4/2019 at 8:07 PM, Wandering Investor said:

Not only Feruchemy, but Dalinar also had his memory wiped. In a universe with a dedicated cognitive realm, its probably not that hard to attack memories in other ways as well.

that was straight up shardic intervention

 

[Wandering Investor]

On 8/6/2019 at 10:16 AM, twenty second of the sun said:

that was straight up shardic intervention

 

True, but its still an example that it is possible. Maybe hard to replicate to that degree, but the principle exist.