Karger he/him Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 How did the singers change forms before the arrival of Honor and Cultivation? We know that they way that the listeners do it is by walking into a highstorm aka Honor's perpendicularity and it seems that the Horneaters use Cultivation's perpendicularity for something similar. This implies that changing forms requires either a large amount of free investiture or a perpendicularity but untill Honor and Cultivation got to Roshar their was none. Singers were created by Adonalsium as part of Roshar's ecology they are clearly designed to change form and their existed spren to bond but how did they go about bonding without either god present? Did Adonalsium leave some kind of perpendicularity or investiture on Roshar and if so what happened to it?
Karger he/him Posted March 29, 2019 Author Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Inky said: The Highstorm was on Roshar before the Shattering Yes but whose investiture was in it? Honor was not on Roshar before the Shattering. Edited March 29, 2019 by Karger
not an Evil Librarian Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 20 minutes ago, Karger said: Yes but whose investiture was in it? Honor was not on Roshar before the Shattering. It was Adonalsium's investiture. Before the shattering, all investiture belonged to Adonolsium, and it wasn't split between different beings.
Inky Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 So.... yeah. The Singers just bonded Spren in the Highstorm? I don't see the problem. There were spren pre-shattering 1
Calderis he/him Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 And it was most likely the same investiture. All Investiture was assigned at the Shattering. There need be no change beyond that.
Karger he/him Posted March 29, 2019 Author Posted March 29, 2019 On 29/03/2019 at 2:21 PM, Calderis said: And it was most likely the same investiture. All Investiture was assigned at the Shattering. There need be no change beyond that. What do you mean assigned? On 29/03/2019 at 2:14 PM, Inky said: Adonalsium's Investiture Then what happened to it?
Scion of the Mists Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 @Karger Check out this (somewhat confusing) WoB: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/315-general-reddit-2018/#e9385 Basically, all Investiture is "flavored" - it belongs to specific Shards. This was true even before the Shattering of Adonalsium; all Investiture was Adonalsium's Investiture, but various parts of it leaned in different ways. When Adonalsium was split into the 16 different Shards, all the Investiture was likewise split, depending on which Shardic intent it was closest to. Quote I always imagine Investiture having certain states, certain magnetisms if you will, associated with certain aspects of Adonalsium. So it's all "assigned" to a Shard--because it's always been associated with that Shard. To Investiture, Adonalsium's Shattering meant everything and nothing at the same time. General Reddit 2018 (March 18, 2018) P.s. Please refrain from double posting. If you need to add additional thoughts, edit your previous post.
not an Evil Librarian Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 think of it like the visible light spectrum. Lets say that Adonolsium is a being that controls light. If seven people come and kill him, each would recieve one color: red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet. Adonolsium was a being that controlled investiture, and when he was killed, his investiture got devided between sixteen people. All of the investiture that was used to preserve anything, went to Laras, and all of the investiture that is used to destroy things went to Ati. Same with all of the other shards.
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