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I was just hearing the podcast "History of Roshar Part 1", and i disagreed with one thing said there.

They discussed that when parshmen got exposed to the everstorm, they got gifted different form. And then Venli felt dissapointed that these new singer do not understand the forms, that listners were trying very hard to find.

I don't think that was the way. I believe that the these singer already had these forms, and the spren in their gemhearts before they were casterated from the cognitive realm by the humans, and when parshment entered the everstorm their connection was re-established and they re-gained their original form. I believe the spren were always there in their gemhearts.

 

What do you thing? 

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I'm not quite sure what part you're disagreeing with.

I disagree if you're saying that this is what Venli is talking about. Venli said that the Fused were giving the singers new forms, and I think it's highly unlikely she would be wrong about this. You would be suggesting that all of these singers simply "woke up" with new forms and Venli is... confused where they came from? Singers change forms. It seems pretty clear that the Fused are teaching them what forms are available, including showing them what spren are needed how to set their minds the right way, and so on. This is what Venli is talking about.

If you're saying that they "woke up" with some particular form "already in place" that sounds a bit more reasonable. But you're forgetting that it's been 2000 years since the Recreance. These aren't the singers who were "castrated". These are their great great great ... great grandchildren. So the argument that they "re-gained their original form" gets really weird and complicated. They never had an original form. You'd have to argue that they were somehow born with a spren/form buried inside. And there's not any evidence to support that.

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Actually your second paragraph is what i am saying, i understand that these are desendents of the original, and we dont know as of yet when a parshendi is born, what form are they born in (Possbily in Book 4). Maybe they automatically attract a spren from one of their parents, and later learn how to change it. if that is the case, then the lost forms would still be passed down to the singers. The listners on the other hand decended from a warrior grooup, and may know of the forms at that time, but being a nomadic group, may have lost the non-important forms out of necessity.

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But we do know that Parshendi have a ritual first form day when they gain their first form.

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