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Where is the willshaper herald?


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Simple theory, Vstim, the merchant who was Rysn’s master during her apprenticeship is Kalak, the willshaper herald. Known to love travel, it would make sense for a willshaper to become a merchant, and who else but a herald could enjoy such favorable trade with people from such disparate cultural backgrounds, including the shin.

 

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We see Kalak in the Prologue of Words of Radiance, as one of the two men Jasnah overhears talking about how they're worried about Ash and that she's 'getting worse'. Only the Heralds call Shalash that, we know the other man was Nale and we can account for the other three male Heralds so by process of elimination that was Kalak. Jasnah briefly sees him and notes that 'he could have been Alethi'. If he'd looked Thaylen, as Vistm most definitely does, Jashah would have noted that. Ergo, Kalak does not look Thaylen. Also, that scene suggests that Kalak's particular form of Herald insanity is paranoia or hypochondria. Neither of these words fit Vistm at all.

It's not a bad idea, but it doesn't fit what little we know of Kalak.

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6 hours ago, YKDG22 said:

I personally think Kalak is Roshone.

What makes you think that? Roshone has aged, has a son, has almost died, since he arrived at Hearthstone. He also doesn't exhibit paranoia or hypochondria, as Weltall mentions.

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Doesnt exhibit paranoia? Why did moash's grandparents die? They were his rivals. Why did he go after Lirin? He was the number 2 citizen in hearthstone and stood up to him. Every choice he makes has a negative outcome. Meddling in kholinar, messing with lirin, whitespine hunt, taking his sons wife( she took the power). He stands out as someone going through turmoil/torture.

We dont know enough about the heralds in desolation to say one way or the other how they will appear.

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But that's more ruthlessness, not paranoia. I mean, he lost a freaking leg to a whitespine. I don't think Kalak would go on a whitespine hunt in the first place (too paranoid) and wouldn't lose a leg permanently to it in the second place.

And again, he's aged since Kaladin has seen him, which a Herald wouldn't do.

 

Edit: Oh, I see we've discussed this before. We're probably not going to change each others minds this time either, so I'll just stop now :) We'll find out eventually!

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Because we've seen the other Heralds and they haven't aged. Aging means dying, and dying means being returned to Damnation, which we know none of the Heralds other than Taln have done. Hoid drew accurate pictures of each of them, from memory. If they aged, those pictures wouldn't be accurate. As far as we've seen, Cognitive Shadows stapled to bodies don't age.

 

 

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Another big thing that tells against the idea that Roshone is Kalak, Jasnah recognizes Nale and Kalak as 'ambassadors from the West'. If Kalak was pretending to be an Alethi nobleman, he can't simultanously be pretending to be an ambassador from somewhere else while he's surrounded by Alethi who would know his 'Roshone' persona. And Jasnah's keeping an eye on the court so she should recognize prominent nobles, especially ones with connections to the Kholins.

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35 minutes ago, YKDG22 said:

Do we know what roshone was doing before gavilars death? We dont know how relevant he was at that point. His influencing elhokar was afterwards.

It really doesn't matter, Kalak was seen by the entire Alethi court at that party, including Elhokar and Jasnah. If you want to pretend that Kalak was already playing Roshone beforehand, people at the court would have seen him and wondered why a brightlord was pretending to be someone else (and an ambassador, you aren't exactly going to overlook them) and if you want to pretend he adopted the Roshone persona afterwards, you still have Elhokar meeting the man as 'the western ambassador' first, along with everyone else at that party who might later encounter Roshone.

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