Odium and Dark Radiants

[Gasper he/him]

I have been rereading Oathbringer and I am starting to notice a few connections between the various Moash parts that may relate to Odium's plans. First, the Fused are slowly going crazy because they have been reborn so many times. Also, it seems that the Fused do not have as fine of control over their surges as the corresponding Radiant orders. The Fused are also becoming a liability because they are being reborn at what seems like a greater rate than previous Desolations. Which means that Odium needs a replacement. Which leads us to Moash. First, the Fused are collecting Shardblades and Shardplate. Secondly, Moash kills Jezrien with a dagger that has a gem in the pommel and the wounds bleeds black smoke(similar to nightblood), we also know that the blade is functionally similar to hemalurgy. The gem in the pommel also lights up after Jezrien dies. So the blade is stealing something and storing it in the gem. Also, Odium only has nine orders of Fused and seems to be missing one for the Surge of Adhesion, which is a primarily Honor based Surge. Given that the Heralds have a direct connection to Honor through themselves which is channeled through the Honorblades, I think Odium might be trying to gain the ability for his forces to use Adhesion. Not in the Windrunner sort of way, but more like a Bondsmith. If he uses the dagger to give Moash the direct connection to Honor so that he can use the Honorblade with levels of power magnitudes larger than a Knights Radiant. Moash would then be able to act as basically a dark Bondsmith and unite Odium's forces. Which leads us to my next point: Odium wants and needs to replace the Fused. I think he wants to do this by making Voidbinding Radiants. I think the direct connection to Honor might be able to heal the shardblades long enough for Odium to corrupt the spren and then bond them to Singers or Humans. Which would give the Void Radiants less checks on their power than a Knights Radiant and more Surges and more control of said Surges than a Fused. Sure, Odium's power might burn through them quicker, but he can always get more people to bond. They could also be used to discredit Dalinar's Radiants through false flag attacks on allies. And with Moash's connection to Honor's investure, the Void Radiants could be powered without having to rely on stored investure. It would also fit with the whole Odium is the new Vorin god theory that has been floating around. 

Edited November 6, 2018 by Gasper
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[Kramerfarve]

Moash would not be a dark bondsmith, and would have the wind runner variance of the adhesion surge, albeit he would be uberpowerful with a direct investiture tie to honor, it is still unknown A if that is what the gem does and B that the direct tie even still functions after the splintering. So far, the only herald seen surge binding is Nale, who is known to have attracted and bonded a spren.

[Crucible of Shards he/him]

I believe with Honor dead, the heralds no longer have direct access to his essence (and the fantastical level of power associated with that). But someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[Gasper he/him]

I look at the connection as more with Honor's Investure and not Honor himself. Just as Aon Dor uses Dominion and Devotions investure for power, so does the Herald's use Honor's Investure. The status of the shardholder does not matter, only the fact that their investure is still laying around.

[Calderis he/him]

2 minutes ago, Gasper said:

I look at the connection as more with Honor's Investure and not Honor himself. Just as Aon Dor uses Dominion and Devotions investure for power, so does the Herald's use Honor's Investure. The status of the shardholder does not matter, only the fact that their investure is still laying around.

The Dor is a different. The Selish magics don't need to worry about Connection to a source because their literally drawing on a pressurized reservoir that wants out. You poke a hole and it pushes through. 

The Honorblade Connected to Honor in the Spiritual and allowed that power to be drawn on. While yes, it's not confirmed either way if the Connection was broken, we don't know if it was to Honor the Shard, Tanavast, through the Honorblade themselves, or a part of the Oathpact that connected Directly to the Heralds. 

I personally think that Splintering strip away the internal Connections of a Shard, which is what makes it impossible to pick it up as a whole. As such I think drawing on the power is also impossible. The internal connections that allowed an uninterrupted feed are no longer there. 

And slight nitpick, but the dagger did not bleed black smoke. The wounds that it left did. 

[Gasper he/him]

11 minutes ago, Calderis said:

And slight nitpick, but the dagger did not bleed black smoke. The wounds that it left did. 

Oops, Thanks for the nitpick, I must have mixed that up in my head.