Trelagism

[_Shard]

Trell has been a character of interest in the Cosmere ever since the Alloy of Law book. There are tons of crazy theories on Trell and Trelagism, so I thought I'd share some of mine.

Trelagism reminds me a LOT of the Shardworld Taldain. One one side it's constantly daytime - Dayside - and on the other it's constantly night - Darkside. In the religion Trelagism, worshipped by the Nelazan on Scadrial, they thought that night was sacred, as they could see the Thousand Eyes of Trell, which were the stars. This could be a reference to Darkside, and it's entirely possible some Darksiders travelled to Scadrial and spread their beliefs.

White Sand takes place waaay before Mistborn. Trell, supposedly an Avatar of Autonomy, could have gone to Scadrial himself.

In Trelagism, Trell was the stars and Nalt was the sun. This isn't something crazy, but I connected Nalt to Nalthis for some reason. Is this a coincidence or am I connecting two random things for no reason.

[Corax]

You at least noticed the same things I noticed, so there's that.

I expect Trell and Nalt are both Bavadin. And the Trell from the Alloy of Law era is potentially another version of Trell, but still Bavadin.

(But I sometimes don a crown of tinfoil and decide everyone's Bavadin... so maybe take my Bavadin identifications with a grain of salt?)

IT'S BAVADIN ALL THE WAY DOWN.

Edited September 1, 2018 by Corax
Typo correction

[Ripheus23]

@Corax Patji is Bavadin's turtle-shell 

[Zelly]

I never really made a connection between Nalt and Nalthis since I pronounce the "a" differently, but it's interesting.

Edited September 3, 2018 by Zellyia

[Storyspren]

On 8/31/2018 at 11:41 PM, _Shard said:

Trell has been a character of interest in the Cosmere ever since the Alloy of Law book. There are tons of crazy theories on Trell and Trelagism, so I thought I'd share some of mine.

Trelagism reminds me a LOT of the Shardworld Taldain. One one side it's constantly daytime - Dayside - and on the other it's constantly night - Darkside. In the religion Trelagism, worshipped by the Nelazan on Scadrial, they thought that night was sacred, as they could see the Thousand Eyes of Trell, which were the stars. This could be a reference to Darkside, and it's entirely possible some Darksiders travelled to Scadrial and spread their beliefs.

White Sand takes place waaay before Mistborn. Trell, supposedly an Avatar of Autonomy, could have gone to Scadrial himself.

In Trelagism, Trell was the stars and Nalt was the sun. This isn't something crazy, but I connected Nalt to Nalthis for some reason. Is this a coincidence or am I connecting two random things for no reason.

Seriously, all the religions Sazed talks about in the first trilogy are candidates for popping up other places. And so, I'm really suspicious about the origins of the keepers and their relation to (other?) world singers etc. I always thought the same thing you pointed out. Great minds think alike.  So props man.

Edited September 6, 2018 by Storyspren
Initial formulation of the last three sentences read as having the opposite meaning from the intended meaning. Oops! And SORRY!

[Slimy_Slider]

On 9/1/2018 at 4:41 PM, _Shard said:

In Trelagism, Trell was the stars and Nalt was the sun. This isn't something crazy, but I connected Nalt to Nalthis for some reason. Is this a coincidence or am I connecting two random things for no reason.

Little bit of bitterness between Autonomy and Endowment slipping through into religion there?

[Nothing-Ridiculous]

I always found the similarities between the purlake religion and trellgaism quite striking 

[Corax]

I initially thought that too, about the Purelakers, but WoB suggests otherwise:

Paladin Brewer (paraphrased)

Is there a link between Trell and Nalt from Mistborn and Nu Ralik and Van Makik from Stormlight?

Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased)

"No, there isn't, maybe just tenuously." He said something like that. He seemed confused that I asked that.

source

[Nothing-Ridiculous]

@Corax thanks for the WOB, I guess it’s just coincidence