Numb Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 I finally got around to reading Alloy of Law which I've been putting off since reading a Mistborn book without Vin or a descended of Vin felt too wrong for me. Anyway it was rather enjoyable but the mythical nature of Mistborns really bugged me. I've been trying to find any info about this but the best I found was the wiki suggesting it has to do with dilution which doesn't sound right. Did Harmony change Allomancy in a way to remove any potential for Mistborns? I know he changed Spook to be a mistborn which should have been the same as Elend or the original Allomancers which means there is at least one pure enough line that could produce Mistborns. The nature of the kidnappings suggest that at least one group of people believe there can be mistborns(I assume that's why they only kidnap women from Spook's line). They also talk about Vin but don't seem to believe she was actually a mistborn either or do they just not believe she was real? It was rather strange reading from a Twinborns perspective, seeing the protaganists struggle to deal with a Coinshot/Lurcher where as Vin would deal with a whole group of them with ease. The cosmere implications of not having Mistborns seem huge to me. I don't think we have come across a magic system yet that offers as much destructive potential was Vin did and she did that with barely any knowledge of Allomancy. I really hope this isn't the case and we do see more Mistborn using all the magic has to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorridgeBrick he/him Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Spook was a reduced-strength Mistborn a la Kelsier and Vin, not a Lerasium-level one a la Elend. So with Elend dead, there are no Lerasium strength allomancers around, and the blood got diluted. Take into account, too, that the classes changed after Harmony – there's more mixing of bloodlines, so the power is being diluted over a larger population. As for seeing more Mistborn, well... The plot of the next trilogy begins with a allomantic SWAT team called in to deal with a Mistborn serial killer. And there will probably be more Lerasium eventually, so the bloodlines can get re-Invested again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numb Posted April 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 I thought Lerasium changes the sDNA if you aren't a allomancer to give you allomancy. Wouldn't Harmony have done the same thing to Spook to give him his Mistborn powers so why would he be reduced like Vin/Kel? The latter information is good to know, I really want to see what a Mistborn with full knowledge of all the Metals(Not just 16) could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorridgeBrick he/him Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) Harmony used his godly power and made him a reduced-power Mistborn on purpose. He probably didn't trust him with the full power. Shardhunt Spoilers For good reason apparently. Hemalurgy is a big no-no, Spook. Edited April 8, 2014 by PorridgeBrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Hoodie Mistborn he/him Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Bloodline dilution through hundreds of years lead to no mistborns that anyone on Scadrial is aware of in the AoL stories. Keep in mind what Kelsier says though, there is always another secret! Everyone thought Shan was just a Rioter too... Shardhunt Spoiler Why is hemalurgy a no-no in and of itself? Because you have to steal other people's essences? You don't have to kill, we have WoB on that, though it does mess people up. Ruin isn't around to mess up Hemalurgists, just Harmony now and I don't see him doing that. It would be interesting to see a Hemalurgist show up on Roshar where Odium might be able to take control of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorWh0m he/him Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 For good reason apparently. Hemalurgy is a big no-no, Spook. Woah woah woah woah woah. That was Spook? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Hoodie Mistborn he/him Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Woah woah woah woah woah. That was Spook? That is the presumption, yes. Who else would know to call him "Saze" and about the art? I don't know if we have WoB on it, but it makes sense. note that is a "draft and may change" per the Shardhunt page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalenthas Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Marsh would call him Saze and know a ton about Hemalurgy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glaring at the Survivor he/him Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) Can anyone PM me whats going on? Sorry, I'm clueless. Uh... MBT spoilers I know Spook got Hemalurgied by a soldier, is that all? Its not like Spook knew that was Hemallurgy. Edited April 15, 2014 by Stroniax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numb Posted April 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 I'm also rather confused about what they talking about. I assume it's not about Spook in HoA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorridgeBrick he/him Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 Read the chapter previews in the Shardhunt on Brandon's website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentprimus Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Spook was a reduced-strength Mistborn a la Kelsier and Vin, not a Lerasium-level one a la Elend. So with Elend dead, there are no Lerasium strength allomancers around, and the blood got diluted. Take into account, too, that the classes changed after Harmony – there's more mixing of bloodlines, so the power is being diluted over a larger population. As for seeing more Mistborn, well... The plot of the next trilogy begins with a allomantic SWAT team called in to deal with a Mistborn serial killer. And there will probably be more Lerasium eventually, so the bloodlines can get re-Invested again. we know the plot fo the nxt trilogy? Where can I get this info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorWh0m he/him Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Right here. What PorridgeBrick said, plus the fact that the main character will be a nicrosil misting, are literally all we know about the next trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngy he/him Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I had assumed that book was the one given to him by Marsh. (Especially because he is the one that has all the knowledge of Hemalurgy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Joe in the Bush Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Harmony used his godly power and made him a reduced-power Mistborn on purpose. He probably didn't trust him with the full power. Shardhunt Spoilers For good reason apparently. Hemalurgy is a big no-no, Spook. Read the chapter previews in the Shardhunt on Brandon's website. I just Read all the PReview Chapters, could you be a Bit more Specific? EDIT: Ignore all That. I found it 2 minutes after I Posted this. Here's a Link: http://brandonsanderson.com/shadows-of-self/ Edited April 24, 2014 by The Only Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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