tipbruley Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 I was thinking that the story of Fleet was actually about Honor versus Odium. Fleet represents Honor and the storm represents Odium Odium killed Honor, but Honor's death appears to have stopped him (based on the letters epigraph about Odium being contained) “The storm approached and found him there. It stilled and stopped upon its course! The rains they fell, the winds they blew, but forward they could not progress The interesting thing to note is that this happened at Shinovar, which is where we know the Honor blades are being kept. After dying, Fleet's soul rises up and roams around the world. This is eerily similar to the Stormfather. His body dead, but not his will, within those winds his soul did rise.His body dead, but not his will, within those winds his soul did rise. It flew upon the day’s last song, to win the race and claim the dawn. Past the sea and past the waves, our Fleet no longer lost his breath. Forever strong, forever fast forever free to race the wind Anyone else see the coincidence? Maybe this story was not about Kaladin as Wit says it is, or maybe Kaladin is destined to do something similar to what Honor did to keep Odium contained. Not really a theory, but just something that crossed my mind 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taliefer Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 that thought popped into my head while reading as well. also thoughts about it being a metaphor for the journey before destination stuff, kaladins story, and probably some other things as well. it was a great moment that seemed to hint at much and many more things than just the base story itself. much like Hoid himself really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colby Jack Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 Some things are so obvious that you just want to smack yourself in the head for not noticing it. Great catch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shardbearer Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 Yeah, looks like Fleet's soul (the Stormfather) is forever racing the wind, past the sea, and chasing the dawn forever in a big storm that circles the planet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
name_here Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) Yeah, looks like Fleet's soul (the Stormfather) is forever racing the wind, past the sea, and chasing the dawn forever in a big storm that circles the planet... Actually, I think in this metaphor system the Stormfather would be the wind that Fleet's soul is racing. The Highstorm came at his command two days before the middle of the Weeping in a year where there would be no mid-Weeping storm, so I wouldn't say he's racing the wind. Also doesn't strike me as a particularly good metaphor for Honor vs. Odium; the storm is a Highstorm and therefore of Honor, and I got the sense Honor's containment of Odium started before his death. However, it could be a metaphor for the Heralds; one or more of them trying to show they were strong enough to aid Honor against Odium and, while failing in a physical sense, demonstrated their courage and will and convinced Honor to raise them and let them help with the Oathpact. If a specific Herald, it'd either be Jezerin (the leader and associated with the Windrunners) or Taln. Edited March 21, 2014 by name_here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeiel Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) I like this Fleet=Honor theory. @name_here Rather than a metaphor (which you seem to be interpreting literally), how about Wit's story being the legend of where the highstorms/Stormfather came from. The initial storm vs Fleet was simply Odium vs Tanavast whose spirit managed to live on (in a manner of speaking) after his death as the Stormfather Edited March 21, 2014 by Jeiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeky-eyes Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 This does have merit, especially as according to WoB the Highstorms have both meteorological and supernatural components to them. This could account for where the Stormfather came from since a part of the Stormfather seems to come from the interactions with the Cognitive Realm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinintendo Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) I think It's foreshadowing to Kaladin journey(next book). We know the Everstorm going to hit Shinovar next, so Kaladin gonna race it(by flying). I assume after leaving for Hearthstone and finishing his buisness there, he will fly east to New Natahan than to the sea after the storm. “Upon that land of dirt and soil,” Wit shouted, “our hero fell and did not stir! His body spent, his strength undone, Fleet the hero was no more. “The storm approached and found him there. It stilled and stopped upon its course! The rains they fell, the winds they blew, but forward they could not progress. “For glory lit, and life alive, for goals unreached and aims to strive. All men must try, the wind did see. It is the test, it is the dream.” He will "die" in the struggle, at least his hero self?than stop the storm in it's track. “So in that land of dirt and soil, our hero stopped the storm itself. And while the rain came down like tears, our Fleet refused to end this race. His body dead, but not his will, within those winds his soul did rise. He refused to let the race end, he won't give up. he's all wounded and close to dying but his will is still strong. Kaladin soul is lifted in the wind(Windrunner ) “It flew upon the day’s last song, to win the race and claim the dawn. Past the sea and past the waves, our Fleet no longer lost his breath. Forever strong, forever fast, forever free to race the wind.” last song= Parshendi last song reference? , dawn = dawnshards?(seems a strech). Kaladin flying past the sea and waves, no longer tired(did he lose stormlight before?). Input is welcome, not sure about all of that. The big problem is that the Everstorm is going around the opposite way of the Highstorm, Kaladin following the Everstorm around the globe seems unlikely lol... Edited March 22, 2014 by shinintendo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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