Watchcry he/him Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Hey team. I've been away for about 6 months. But I had a question and am not sure if it's been asked before. Do you all think that Nightblood and Szeth's spren will get along? It seems like his sprenblade will have more utility as it won't use as much investiture as Nightblood will. What do you all think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Well, the spren rarely shows him/herself because it's afraid of Nightblood, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara she/her Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Mmm. His spren rarely shows itself, but we don't know that it's because it's afraid of Nightblood. I mean, it's a reasonable speculation, but it's not confirmed As long as Szeth has enough investiture on him, his spren should be safe. I wonder if Nightblood would kill Szeth first before it would get to the spren? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szmit Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 5 hours ago, RShara said: Mmm. His spren rarely shows itself, but we don't know that it's because it's afraid of Nightblood. I mean, it's a reasonable speculation, but it's not confirmed As long as Szeth has enough investiture on him, his spren should be safe. I wonder if Nightblood would kill Szeth first before it would get to the spren? Radiant and spren are conected in spiritual realm, not phisical or cognitive so transfering investiture would be copmarativelly hard. Moreover we know that aons and elen that big aon on Sel are not viable way to power Nightblood, because he would quickly eat investiture gateway. Aon Investiture is surely easier to acces than Spren's Investiture, so Szeth's soul would be probably long gone before Nightblood could do any ral damage to Spren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara she/her Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 ....What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 The soul of the Radiant and their Spren are connected. The investiture that makes up the spiritweb is precisely what Nightblood eats. I think that even if the Physical and Cognitive survived from being out if reach... The spiritweb would be eaten and the Spren would experience a real death, with the investiture in the physical and Cognitive would disperse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szmit Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 2 hours ago, RShara said: ....What? I was tired. The analogy and assumptions went way too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara she/her Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 I have "don't post when overly tired" stapled to the insides of my eyelids, from experience ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyRioter she/her Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 Honestly, I have to wonder why bond him if they were scared of Nightblood. Maybe they didn't realize how dangerous Nightblood is until afterwards and then were like "oh crud, what did I get into?" and now they are just crying in a corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteLeeopard she/her Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, CrazyRioter said: Honestly, I have to wonder why bond him if they were scared of Nightblood. Maybe they didn't realize how dangerous Nightblood is until afterwards and then were like "oh crud, what did I get into?" and now they are just crying in a corner. Some spren seem the type to do what they must, regardless of how that affects their own survival instinct. Although I still slightly subscribe to the theory that its Szeth's original spren from when he was young. In which case the bond was dormant for years, but it had begun years before Szeth bonded Nightblood. So the spren literally had no choice, as despite Syl's comment I don't get the feeling that spren can easily break bonds if their KR hasn´t broken oaths, or wants them to leave. Also, hi all! Been a while not on the Shard. Edited June 29, 2018 by WhiteLeeopard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 3 hours ago, WhiteLeeopard said: Although I still slightly subscribe to the theory that its Szeth's original spren from when he was young. In which case the bond was dormant for years, but it had begun years before Szeth bonded Nightblood. I want this to be correct. And welcome back White. It's been a few months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szmit Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 8 hours ago, WhiteLeeopard said: Although I still slightly subscribe to the theory that its Szeth's original spren from when he was young. In which case the bond was dormant for years, but it had begun years before Szeth bonded Nightblood. So the spren literally had no choice, as despite Syl's comment I don't get the feeling that spren can easily break bonds if their KR hasn´t broken oaths, or wants them to leave. Aren't the voices in shadows he hears throughout the books caused by Skybreaker powers interference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, Szmit said: Aren't the voices in shadows he hears throughout the books caused by Skybreaker powers interference? No, that is something unrelated to the powers themselves. Quote Blightsong Is anything magical going on with the screams Szeth hears? Brandon Sanderson Uhhh, Szeth's screams. Uhhm, I'm trying to decide how to answer this. It is not, see here's the thing. What we would call magical may not be considered magical in the Cosmere, but it depends on your definition of magic. Would Szeth if he were on our planet and have done those things would he hear those screams, probably not, but would someone else in the Cosmere who had gone through what he had gone through hear those screams, yes. Blightsong So it has to do with the spiritual realm? Brandon Sanderson Yea, mhmm, yea. source I'm positive that those screams, and the screams of Evi and children that Dalinar here's after Rathalas are the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szmit Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Calderis said: No, that is something unrelated to the powers themselves. I'm positive that those screams, and the screams of Evi and children that Dalinar here's after Rathalas are the same thing. So I probably misinterpreted why Nale was so chill when Szeth told him about it. Edited June 29, 2018 by Szmit grammar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyree he/him Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 On 30/06/2018 at 1:27 AM, Calderis said: I'm positive that those screams, and the screams of Evi and children that Dalinar here's after Rathalas are the same thing. I thought the same thing. But weren't Dalinars screams associated with Odium and the thrill (Nergaoul) ? Because at the end of OB just before Dalinar gets as lift would say 'awesome' doesn't Odium heighten them? Sorry I havnt read OB in a while. This is just what I thought.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 36 minutes ago, TruthlessCal said: I thought the same thing. But weren't Dalinars screams associated with Odium and the thrill (Nergaoul) ? Because at the end of OB just before Dalinar gets as lift would say 'awesome' doesn't Odium heighten them? Sorry I havnt read OB in a while. This is just what I thought.. Odium heightens them, in a way, by forcing Dalinar to relive those moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelly Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 I always assumed we haven't seen much of Szeth's spren because of some unknown condition/law of Highspren society. Ivory and Syl were rebels, bonding against their society's wishes. A spren of law, however, I think would have a difficult time breaking an actual law if it was in place. Omg I want Highspren to speak in legal-ese. Not really, but can't you imagine: "The spren seeking a bond, hereafter referred to as Transitioner , shall not make a physical transition and bond until the chosen human, hereafter referred to as Squire, has reached the required levels of understanding of law as put forth by the mandates of the Skybreakers and is in accordance with the regulations put forth by the Council of Highspren (hereafter referred to as the Council) as found in Section 5c." 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angsos Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 That would be cool like Brandon putting High Imperial from Mistborn in Alcatraz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyRioter she/her Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 It would be funny the first time, but I think it would probably get old real fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 It might explain why the Skybreakers are insane... Hard to stay sane if your spren is like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedshaman Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 I always got the impression that all the highspren stay hidden for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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