Duralumin with other metals

[PerseusAvenger]

What happens when you burn duralumin with higher metals? We know for most of the basic ones but what about some higher metals, Copper, and Bronze?

Steel/Iron/Pewter/Tin/Brass/Zinc

It's not really super relevant as in Wax and Wayne, there aren't anymore mistborn(unless you count the Bands of Mourning) and in og series only some of the higher metals have been discovered but it would be interesting to see how duralumin would affect: Gold, Electrum, Cadmium and Bendalloy(though why someone would burn this I don't know), Nicrosil and Chromium.

 

[The Harlem Worldhoppers he/him]

Duralumin + Bendalloy would probably allow faster than light travel which is believed to be a staple of mistborn era 4

[goody153]

Duralumin Gold/Malatium must be really weird. How far do you even view backward. Does Duralumin Electrum like let you view into the spiritual realm but only your own ? 

Pretty sure Duralumin Nicrosil/Chromium is just like a mass AOE allomancy boost or allomancy nullifier. It's probably just like using duralumin on uhm duralumin if that is even possible.

[King Cole he/him]

37 minutes ago, goody153 said:

Duralumin Gold/Malatium must be really weird. How far do you even view backward. Does Duralumin Electrum like let you view into the spiritual realm but only your own ? 

Pretty sure Duralumin Nicrosil/Chromium is just like a mass AOE allomancy boost or allomancy nullifier. It's probably just like using duralumin on uhm duralumin if that is even possible.

Definitely not AOE. It wouldn’t have much of an effect on nicrosil and Chromium

[Weltall]

Duralumin+Bendalloy/Cadmium would probably do the same thing we see with the Physical/Mental metals: All that power in a compressed timespan. Hypothetically, let's say that Marasi and Wayne get access A-Duralumin through some unsealed metalminds and try to do their thing, and let's assume they both have enough to compress ten minutes of time. When Marasi tries, she'd likely compress time so that those ten minutes pass in the blink of an eye, instead of taking some number of seconds of relative time. When Wayne tries to do the same thing, it would be wierd because the enhanced burn speed would generally take away the advantage of A-Bendalloy, that you have time to react to the slowing down of time outside the bubble, and he would experience those ten minutes of compressed time in an instant. On an individual basis, it seems the most obvious use of Duralumin+Bendalloy would be to age faster, which doesn't seem that helpful.

However, Brandon's said that mechanical applications of the Metallic Arts will be able to do very complex things, so it's quite possible that 'mechanical bendalloy' is indeed involved in FTL, with or without duralumin. Of course, Brandon's been asked this on occasion and RAFOd it every time. xD

Duralumin+Electrum would probably work the same way as with atium, letting you push the shadows out a little further until you eventually break through and peek into the Spiritual Realm. And then your brain might break since A-Electrum doesn't provide the same enhanced mental processing speed. But Brandon's said that it's definitely possible.

Edited June 18, 2018 by Weltall

[Calderis he/him]

3 hours ago, King Cole said:

Definitely not AOE. It wouldn’t have much of an effect on nicrosil and Chromium

Well, we know that Leechers need to touch a target, but we've never seen a nicroburst, and there was a point in time that Brandon at least considered it. 

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Kirrin

Also, you should tell us what the last two metals are.

Brandon Sanderson

The last two metals are Chromium and Nicrosil. We'll reveal what they do on the Allomancy poster. Suffice it to say that in the next trilogy, the main protagonist would be a Nicrosil Misting. And, to make a Robert Jordan-type comment, what those two metals do should become obvious to the serious student of Allomancy... (It has to do with the nature of the metal groupings.)

Happy Man

If I read the poster correctly, and have the correlations down, these metals are the external enhancement metals.

The simplest idea is that they do to another person what Aluminum and Duralumin do to the Allomancer burning them. If this is true, then Chromium would destroy another Allomancer's metals (useful skill, that, especially in a group of Mistings fighting a Mistborn) while Nicrosil would cause the target's metals that are currently burning to be burned in a brief, intense flash. This could be used either to enhance a group of Mistings or to seriously mess up an enemy Allomancer.

Peter Ahlstrom

The other metals do not have exact one-to-one power correlations like that, so it seems more likely to me that they would work differently. It could be like an area effect weakening or enhancing spell. You would want an enhancer in your party, and you wouldn't want to go up against a weakener.

Nicrosil is a rather more complicated alloy than the others. It's an interesting one to pick, rather than something simpler like nichrome (though I guess that's actually a brand name)

Brandon Sanderson

Nicely done.

Ookla is right, the others don't have 1/1 correlations. But I liked this concept far too much not to use it.

In a future book series, Mistborn will also have become things of legend. The bloodlines will have become diluted to the point that there are no Mistborn, only Mistings—however, the latter are far more common. In this environment, a Nicrosil Misting could be invaluable both as an enhancer to your own team or a weapon to use against unsuspecting other Mistings.

Douglas

I take it either Spook did not have children or Sazed made him a reduced-strength Mistborn rather than giving him the full potency of the 9 originals and Elend?

Brandon Sanderson

Spook is a reduced power Mistborn.

Chaos

Very interesting about the Nicrosil.

So, if there is no more atium, then that would mean in any future trilogy, there would only be 14 metals, right? Somehow, that doesn't seem right, but maybe that is because it irks me that one quartet to be left incomplete with the absence of atium.

Would it be possible for Sazed to create a replacement metal, by chance, or will the temporal quartet remain inherently empty? It doesn't seem like it's too far of a stretch for Sazed to make more metals: after all, the metal Elend ate was a fragment of Preservation, and now Sazed holds Preservation.

Brandon Sanderson

That's a RAFO, I'm afraid. Suffice it to say that what the characters think they understand about the metals, they don't QUITE get right. If you study the interaction between the temporal metals, you might notice an inconsistency in the way they work...

Peter Ahlstrom

Uh-huh. That was already noticed by theorizers in the forums here. Gold works like Malatium and Electrum works like Atium. Yet they're on opposite corners of the metal square.

Brandon Sanderson

Ah. I wondered if that had been noticed.

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Unless that's been completely abandoned like it has with leechers, nicrosil may work slightly differently, I'm guess a slightly less extreme burst of power than we see with duralumin.