Blackace Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 In Oathbringer, Rock laments on how the bridge fared well despite being present during the clash between the highstorm and everstorm. We also know that Kaladin has been pouring stormlight to the bridge during the runs. So did this make the bridge physically stronger? Also another thing is that, just as Kaladin feel that his scar in his forhead is what define him, and thus not heal, the bridge is what defines Bridge 4. I feel that the bridge will be what symbolizes bridge four. As long as the memeber of bridge four is alive, the physical bridge will also be "alive" in a sense. It may also come back as something more significant to bridge four. Or am I just reading too much into it, and it's just Sadeas' engineer are just that good? What do you guys think? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Retribution he/him Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Its a fun idea. If Bridge Four ever lose the bridge, I think it will be a major moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naurock Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 I think any Stormlight he's infused into the bridge is long gone. He can't Soulcast so I don't think this infuses the cognitive perception of the bridge as a bridge and being stronger. But this reminds me of L.E. Modessitt and his Saga of Recluse how Order Mages typically carried staffs. They would accidentally/subconsciously infuse the wood so it would be much stronger than normal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackace Posted February 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, Naurock said: I think any Stormlight he's infused into the bridge is long gone. He can't Soulcast so I don't think this infuses the cognitive perception of the bridge as a bridge and being stronger. True. But if you remember in WoR, when Shallan tried to soulcast the ship after Jasnah was stabbed, the ship initially refused. But after prodding about the crew, the ship relented because it wanted to save those that was riding on him. We also have Oathbringer, the sword not the book, to not scream as loud because it "remembers" Dalinar's oath. So I thought maybe the bridge in the same way thinks itself as part of Bridge Four, a kind of maybe a tiny "nahel bond" between people and the spirit of the object making it stronger. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Blackace said: True. But if you remember in WoR, when Shallan tried to soulcast the ship after Jasnah was stabbed, the ship initially refused. But after prodding about the crew, the ship relented because it wanted to save those that was riding on him. We also have Oathbringer, the sword not the book, to not scream as loud because it "remembers" Dalinar's oath. So I thought maybe the bridge in the same way thinks itself as part of Bridge Four, a kind of maybe a tiny "nahel bond" between people and the spirit of the object making it stronger. The bridges Cognitive perception of itself would be changed, yes, and that may increase it's resistance to something soulcasting it, just like with the ship... But it's still an inanimate object. That Cognitive aspect is a construct built from the perception of sapient minds. It shouldn't be any more physically durable because of it. Edited February 10, 2018 by Calderis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MountainKing Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, Calderis said: The bridges Cognitive perception of itself would be changed, yes, and that may increase it's resistance to something soulcasting it, just like with the ship... But it's still an inanimate object. That Cognitive aspect is a construct built from the perception of sapient minds. It shouldn't be any more physically durable because of it. Yeah, but Kaladin has been infusing it with investiture for months on in, we also know that with constant exposure to investiture things begin to collect investiture inside them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalbusker he/him Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 hours ago, MountainKing said: Yeah, but Kaladin has been infusing it with investiture for months on in, we also know that with constant exposure to investiture things begin to collect investiture inside them. It's not impossible that there's something we don't yet know that makes this work this way, but right now we have no reason to believe that repeatedly being the subject of Lashings and/or continuous physical proximity to people holding Stormlight would affect an object in this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prontos Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Let's not forget the bridge was used as a shield, that may have affected it's cognitive aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MountainKing Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Prolong exposure to investiture causes thing to change, like life thriving and an immune system boost, so why when using the surge of adhesion on the bridge, that it doesn't changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalbusker he/him Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, MountainKing said: Prolong exposure to investiture causes thing to change, like life thriving and an immune system boost, so why when using the surge of adhesion on the bridge, that it doesn't changed. You're conflating the large scale undirected investiture radiation of a highstorm with the smaller directed investiture of a Lashing. Again, it's not impossible that this is a thing. It's just, as far as I can see, not supported by any evidence so far ("wouldn't it be cool" is not evidence). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bort he/him Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Perhaps it has been infused long enough that Bridge Four's spren is now the 4th Bondsmith spren. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalbusker he/him Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Bort said: Perhaps it has been infused long enough that Bridge Four's spren is now the 4th Bondsmith spren. I take it all back. This is definitely in my headcanon now. After all, what does a bridge do but bond two places? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MountainKing Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 I kind of want Dalinar to keep infusing the bridge with stormlight, until it becomes bondsmith level or just a sapient spren, but stronger than a radiantspren, sort of like what Honor did to the Stormfather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyRioter she/her Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 and then it can become a Shardbridge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MountainKing Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, CrazyRioter said: and then it can become a Shardbridge. Well yeah i guess whichever Bridge 4 members bond to it can summon it as a shardbridge. What would the oaths to said Nahel Bond be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalbusker he/him Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 6 hours ago, MountainKing said: Well yeah i guess whichever Bridge 4 members bond to it can summon it as a shardbridge. What would the oaths to said Nahel Bond be? 2 through 4 are just "Bridge 4!" at increasing volume levels. The fifth is a very rude and impractical suggestion for Moash. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightlord Brooding-Eyes Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) New theory: The Stick was actually a piece of Bridge Four that broke off during a bridge run and was blown to the Southern Frostlands during a Highstorm. The constant infusions of investiture it received from Kaladin's lashings had strengthened its cognitive Identity so much that Shallan couldn't soulcast it to fire. When Dalinar uses his Bondsmith powers to reconnect The Stick to Bridge Four, it will ascend, becoming the new Vessel of Honor and defeating Odium and the Voidbringers with it's unwavering resolve. Edited February 13, 2018 by Brightlord Brooding-Eyes Grammar 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cognitive Shadow he/him Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 I don’t know about you, but this topic has literally evolved into the greatest thing I have ever seen. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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