Korbin Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) I noticed something when I was reading Oathbringer. So we know that Honor and Cultivation were the creators of Roshar. But we also know that man kind came from another place. They aren't originally from Roshar. Does this mean that Odium came WITH the humans and was there god at first? Was Honor origanlly the Parshmens god? And if so how did it end up switching. I may be completely wrong here but I'm curious to here what you guys think. Okay and now I want to ad to this. Where did the Parshmen come from if they didn't come from any of the shards on Roshar. And what planet or place did the humans come from? Edited December 12, 2017 by Korbin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) As I said in another similar thread last night, Homosassa never the Parsh/Singer/Listener God. Quote https://wob.coppermind.net/events/222/#e5624 Questioner (paraphrased) Are the Parshendi of Odium? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) Not originally. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/222/#e5625 Questioner (paraphrased) Are the Parshendi of Cultivation? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) Not originally. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/222/#e5636 PadraicSeebrr (paraphrased) Are the Parshendi of Honor? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) No. And though the Singers who write the Elia Stella considered Odium the God of the humans, that isn't necessarily true. Quote https://wob.coppermind.net/events/262/#e8808 Hoidonalsium [PENDING REVIEW] What was the order of the Shards coming to Roshar and changing allegiences? Did Humans come with Odium? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] So... you're talking about on Roshar specifically? So, Odium had visited Roshar. The humans gave him more of an ear... The Dawnsingers would have considered him the god of the people who had come, but-- I mean, it wasn't like they necessarily brought him. He was capable of getting around before that. I mean, he did kinda come along with them, he was instrumental in what happened there. Hoidonalsium [PENDING REVIEW] Okay, but he was separate, and after Honor and Cultivation had really settled there? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] Yes, he was after Honor and Cultivation had settled Not sure what happened with the weird formatting... Edited December 12, 2017 by Ookla, the Incalculable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourth Of The Night Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) Roshar existed Pre-Shattering! There are various WoB's on this, but here is one: Quote Zach G Were the Alethi made by some creator-figure and given the Thrill deliberately? Brandon Sanderson Roshar was inhabited before Honor and Cultivation arrived. The Thrill did not exist then. Zach G So it's a response to the power of one of or both of them? Brandon Sanderson I didn't say that... We don't really know if Odium was actually the God of the Humans who came to Roshar, this WoB seems to imply that while Odium came to Roshar around the same time as Humans, he wasn't necessarily their Creator or God. Quote Hoidonalsium [PENDING REVIEW] What was the order of the Shards coming to Roshar and changing allegiences? Did Humans come with Odium? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] So... you're talking about on Roshar specifically? So, Odium had visited Roshar. The humans gave him more of an ear... The Dawnsingers would have considered him the god of the people who had come, but-- I mean, it wasn't like they necessarily brought him. He was capable of getting around before that. I mean, he did kinda come along with them, he was instrumental in what happened there. Hoidonalsium [PENDING REVIEW] Okay, but he was separate, and after Honor and Cultivation had really settled there? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] Yes, he was after Honor and Cultivation had settled. I have a feeling that some of the Humans worshiped Odium, as the Thaylen Passions seem to be remnants of that worship. Edit: Ninja'd! Edited December 12, 2017 by Fourth Of The Night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Investor Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 WoB's indicate the Singers existed on Roshar before the Shattering took place. Perhaps Adonalisium placed them there, but we can't be sure of anything other than they existed. In regards to the Odium thing, we don't know. There are some indications that multiple groups have migrated to Roshar at different times. So Odium might have come with one of these groups. How he was related to the group is unknown, he could have led them, or simply influenced them. Its also not guaranteed that the group of humans that Odium came with were the first humans. Just to have a messier picture, there could have been humans on Roshar before Odium arrived, and he just corrupted them. Another possibility is that Odium was involved in the destruction of Ashyn, aka the Tranqulliane Halls, another planet in the Rosharan system. Then as humans migrated to Roshar to escape Ashyn, Odium may have come with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torchwood17 he/him Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Yeah it seems like the Parshendi were created by Adonalsium, especially since they're whole race is so tied to the highstorms and we know the highstorms were originally of Adonalsium. Not sure where the reference for that is but I'm at work so can't really take the time to find it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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