Observer Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 I think WoB said that he wasn't being truthful there. I can see this happening, since losing the head would disconnect you from your source of gold, and screw you over. The solution is, of course, to implant gold metalminds into your skull, which should be enough to regrow at least the vital organs in a pinch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatborn Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 The Lord Ruler would probably also be compounding Pewter, making a clean decapitation pretty much impossible. Hitting someone with a koloss blade only to have it get stuck and slowly be pushed out by the healing of compounded gold? That would be terrifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightsworn Panda Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 You could successfully cut the Lord Ruler's head off by simultaneously cutting his head off with multiple koloss battle axes, but setting that up would be pretty hard Maybe you could immobilize his brain through pain to stop him from reflexively activating his regeneration, then cutting his head off. Hmm... Seems like the only sure-fire way of killing the Lord ruler is by using Nightblood to cut his head off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 If you're sure he's not burning Nicrosil, you could just try a Shardblade. Gold shouldn't be able to heal that, since a lifetime of sitting around in a hospital won't heal it, so a few years of concentrated healing shouldn't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorridgeBrick Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 If you're sure he's not burning Nicrosil, you could just try a Shardblade. Gold shouldn't be able to heal that, since a lifetime of sitting around in a hospital won't heal it, so a few years of concentrated healing shouldn't either. INTERVIEW: Apr 15th, 2013 Reddit AMA 2013 (Verbatim) KURKISTAN () Does a limb that has been "severed" by a Shardblade have any Hemalurgic bindpoints? If the same limb was then cut off more conventionally, would a Bloodmaker ferring be able to grow it back? BRANDON SANDERSON A severed Shardblade limb needs repair to the soul before it would function again. A Bloodmaker would be able to heal it without needing to grow it back. Gold isn't concentrated healing. It's based on Cognitive perception– you heal to how you view yourself, and how you are viewed by others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Wouldn't the Lord Ruler be a more powerful Compounder than Miles in the same way that Elend was a more powerful Allomancer than the other Mistborns, since their powers come direct from the source rather than diluted through the generations? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggai Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Gold isn't concentrated healing. It's based on Cognitive perception– you heal to how you view yourself, and how you are viewed by others.If you've cut his neck with a Shardblade, his soul's gone. If his soul's been burned out through his eyes I doubt he'd be able to use any sort of Investiture to heal himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorridgeBrick Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Regrowth was able to heal Szeth from a Shardblade hit to the spine after falling for hundreds of feet. Feruchemical gold works under the same principles, so if TLR is fast enough to heal before it reaches the brain, he's completely fine. Hit him in the head, however, and even he's dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggai Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Regrowth was able to heal Szeth from a Shardblade hit to the spine after falling for hundreds of feet. Feruchemical gold works under the same principles, so if TLR is fast enough to heal before it reaches the brain, he's completely fine. Hit him in the head, however, and even he's dead.Well, he can't heal when he's dead. Assuming he compounds gold continuously while you swing, it all depends on how quick Shardblade kills are, and how quick Feruchemical gold works. The question is if the Blade could effectively "sever" the spine before Feruchemical gold can repair the damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Regrowth was able to heal Szeth from a Shardblade hit to the spine after falling for hundreds of feet. Feruchemical gold works under the same principles, so if TLR is fast enough to heal before it reaches the brain, he's completely fine. Hit him in the head, however, and even he's dead. You might be right, but Szeth was healed by an external force rather than an internal one. And dying that way specifically cut off his spiritual connection to his Honourblade, and might mean that he doesn't even have a soul any more for all we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorridgeBrick Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 If he didn't have a soul, I think he'd be rather dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) If he didn't have a soul, I think he'd be rather dead. I don't see why that has to be the case. And it seems like being soulless would be a big advantage for a wielder of Nightblood. Edited April 10, 2014 by Wrath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggai Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) I don't see why that has to be the case. And it seems like being soulless would be a big advantage for a wielder of Nightblood.Being soulless would mean you couldn't use it. And when Shardblades sever the soul, it kills whatever they sever. Lack of soul kills. Cognitive healing can regenerate the soul, which is what happened to Szeth. Kaladin managed it earlier. Edited April 10, 2014 by Shaggai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorridgeBrick Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Being soulless would mean you couldn't use it. And when Shardblades sever the soul, it kills whatever they sever. Lack of soul kills. Cognitive healing can regenerate the soul, which is what happened to Szeth. Kaladin managed it earlier.Just a minor clarification here– even before he was revived, Szeth's soul wasn't fully gone, just mostly. If it had gone all the way up his spine to his brain, he'd have lost his soul, and that couldn't be regenerated. I think you meant that, but I'm not quite sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggai Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Just a minor clarification here– even before he was revived, Szeth's soul wasn't fully gone, just mostly. If it had gone all the way up his spine to his brain, he'd have lost his soul, and that couldn't be regenerated. I think you meant that, but I'm not quite sure. I thought that Shardblades severed the soul from the body, but it can be regenerated as long as the brain is in good enough condition. I might have been misinterpreting that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorridgeBrick Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Shoot, reread the section. I was the one who misinterpreted. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Here's a question though: If you lose your head, does the gold in your stomach still work for you? Can you still burn it in your body? Your head? I'm guessing that you would need gold on/in your head if you wanted to survive decapitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorridgeBrick Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Certainly for physical decapitation. I'm curious if the same applies to Shardblade decapitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 I imagine that cutting off your spine's soul, destroying your ability to send the neural impulses that let you tap metalminds, would kill you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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