[OB] Starfalls.

[Isaiah Zayth he/him]

Well, if I’m reading these posts correctly, it seems we’ve discovered at least two more Unmade since the release of the chapters yesterday morning. We know about Re-Shephir, but it seems like people also found her two cousins Re-Shepnir and Re-Shepir. I think the question burning on all of our minds is when will we get to see Re-Shephir’s mother R.E-Shepherd, the truth author of Oathbringer.

Just a silly little reminder to check your spelling, peeps.  

Let me also state that I’m on board with Unmade sharing surges. That makes a whole lot of sense, especially because the Unmade seem to be extremely warped versions of normal spren, who definitely share surges. 

[Peet]

Maybe it's just me, but abbreviating Midnight Essence as ME just screams of selfishness to me. ;-) Think of the casualties in reading comprehension!

Edited November 1, 2017 by Peet

[The Invested Beard]

5 hours ago, Peet said:

Maybe it's just me, but abbreviating Midnight Essence as ME just screams of selfishness to me. ;-) Think of the casualties in reading comprehension!

That's all well and good for you but what about ME?

Edited November 2, 2017 by The Invested Beard

[aemetha he/him]

18 hours ago, WhiteLeeopard said:

What makes me really curious is...why would a traitor fight for Odium? And what would a traitor hope to gain? We did see in chapters that in the past diplomacy was never tried, so the modern nations semi-yielding is obviously not the norm.

Freedom from the cycle of desolations. Odium has no interest in men except those that oppose him. He has never before bothered to exterminate all men, he exterminates shards, men are below his radar, inconsequential. Even the embodiment of divine wrath needs a certain level of stimulus to trigger it, and men just don't have that power, so he exterminates shards and moves on. Perhaps when he is done with all the shards he'll come back to deal with men, but that's a problem for the great, great [insert a million or so greats here] grandchildren of the current generation of men to worry about.

[Solant he/him]

My interpretation of that chapter was that she was blocking the pillar, preventing storm light from reaching it and therefore activating it (what better to block light than something called midnight essence?). As for the previous imprisonment, I suspect those black spheres we keep seeing have something to do with it. 

As for the line from the vision stating the inky things were midnight essence and not knowing who released it, I read that as they didn't know who released the essence itself, but I could be wrong.

[Michael Portz he/him]

2 hours ago, Solant said:

My interpretation of that chapter was that she was blocking the pillar, preventing storm light from reaching it and therefore activating it (what better to block light than something called midnight essence?). As for the previous imprisonment, I suspect those black spheres we keep seeing have something to do with it. 

As for the line from the vision stating the inky things were midnight essence and not knowing who released it, I read that as they didn't know who released the essence itself, but I could be wrong.

Thanks, I totally agree with you in all regards: the intended stormlight-blocking, the sphere imprisonment and the ME (*wink*) release. Take an upvote

[Argent he/him]

My interpretation of that line in Starfalls - in the light of the recent preview chapters - was that maybe the way Re-Shephir was trapped was by trapping pieces of her essence, individual Midnight Essences (thus weakening her), and a few of those were released. It is an imaginative interpretation, however...

[ZenBossanova]

I am not at all convinced what Shallan fought was Re-Shephir. I think it was merely Midnight Essence. I expect Re-Shephir to be more Herald-level in strength. 

[Fifth of Daybreak he/him]

17 minutes ago, ZenBossanova said:

I am not at all convinced what Shallan fought was Re-Shephir. I think it was merely Midnight Essence. I expect Re-Shephir to be more Herald-level in strength. 

That's pretty well implied by the fight.

Quote

Shallan strode right up to the formation. The things fled her, shying to the sides. Shallan had the distinct and terrifying impression that these things could have swept the bridgemen away at will—overwhelming them in a terrible black tide. But the Midnight Mother wanted to learn; she wanted to fight with spears.

 

 

[ZenBossanova]

4 hours ago, Fifth of Daybreak said:

That's pretty well implied by the fight.

 

I am sure that they thought they were fighting her, but I don't think they know enough to judge that. 

If that was a full Unmade, then the entire Desolation could be handled by a half dozen novice Radiants, and Bridge 4.

[Fifth of Daybreak he/him]

It says right in the text Shallan felt like the only reason that they weren't swept away in a display of strength was because Re-Shephir wanted to learn how to fight with spears. Then Shallan does her magic Light show which gives them just a moment to regroup. They are able to mount an offensive long enough to give Shallan a chance touch Re-Shephir, and then freak it out enough to retreat. 

 

I think you're overestimating the minute or so offensive they put on that they were barely able to sustain with the most accomplished shardbearer alive and two protoradiants as well as the significance of a single retreat after being caught completely off guard by the same type of power that had bested you before.