Shardic organization and new shards

[Generalbacon74]

I had one of the best dreams ever I'm my life. or at least the most cosmere answering dream. basically it was about the intent of all the shards now first think of the shards like the allumantic metals its a little different there's physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual. with that now in mind organize the shards in those groups this is sort of what it looks like.

 

Physical: ruin, preservation, cultivation,  Baron

 

Emotional: odium, joy, anguish, null

 

Cognitive: ambition, Instinct, honor, autonomy

 

Spiritual: devotion, dominion, endowment, ambition

 

So to explain my madness this is how It works the physical shards interact with the world as there intent ruin wants to destroy the world preservation wants no change. cultivation most likely wants things to grow baron (one of the ones I saw in my dream) wants nothing to grow not destroy like ruin but make it dead like if there is a tree ant it is growing baron first stops it from growing then it will start to die.

 

the emotional shards intent is more based on an emotion odium being hate he kills shards joy, his opposite, does other things I don't remember that part of the dream and that's its intent not the name. anguish is pain and suffering. Null is blank feeling nothing or felling powerless.

 

The cognitive shards are more of a way of thinking. Instinct is the one who wants to hide/survive the coward basically and opposite to honor who would do anything as long as it was following the oaths.

 

the spiritual shards are more of mess with most likely endowment the only one that is not shattered I say most likely because I don't remember whether or not ambition went in this group or not if you go by ambition being its intent then I'd say yes and since what happened on its planet It probably goes in here.

 

The system I have here is some what complicated if you imagine the allumantic metals chart and lets say we're in the physical section ruin and preservation are opposites so they go next to each other and on the top row cultivation and baron are also opposites they go below with baron diagonal to ruin and cultivation diagonal to preservation. the reason for that is the shards above or below are slight or half way opposites and the diagonal by either intent or the nature of the shards like cultivation and preservation both are good at seeing into the future. 

if you where wondering why Joy is odium's opposite and not love that's because you can love someone you hate but you can't fell joy for them. one of the shards are missing I don't remember everything If I do I'll post it here and if you like this way of organizing the shards then see if you can improve it or something. I also don't have really any WoB to support any of the new shards sorry about that

 

Edited October 11, 2017 by Generalbacon74

[king of nowhere]

you put ambition twice, both in cognitive and spiritual

aside from that, you may be up to something. It would certainly make sense, given how magic works in the cosmere, if shards were grouped like that. And if  they were also paired as opposites

Edited October 11, 2017 by king of nowhere

[Fezzik]

This has been brought up before.

[Generalbacon74]

I put ambition in twice because from a cognitive stand point an ambition is a way of thinking but from whats happening on thedrony it looks like a more spiritual shard

[King Cole he/him]

I wish i had dreams like this

[Velvet Thunder he/him]

I also had a dream about the cosmere, although I was in a bar drinking many different "colours" of wine when Brightlord Justine Timberlake came in and he bested me at a game of Hearthstone.. needless to say I was amused when I woke up but couldn't find anyone to tell that wouldn't think me completely insane. Until now, Hello 17th Shard! 

I think your dream was much better and informative. It could work, good dreaming!

[Toaster Retribution he/him]

34 minutes ago, Velvet Thunder said:

I also had a dream about the cosmere, although I was in a bar drinking many different "colours" of wine when Brightlord Justine Timberlake came in and he bested me at a game of Hearthstone.. needless to say I was amused when I woke up but couldn't find anyone to tell that wouldn't think me completely insane. Until now, Hello 17th Shard! 

Who knows, maybe Brightlord Timberlake is Ambitions vessel? And honestly, that dream sounds hilarious.

As for the idea of this thread, it is good thinking/dreaming. I am not really into some of your Shard suggestions (Instinct is a wierd intent) while others such as Numb are kind of cool. I think it is a workable pattern, but I would probably change up the Shards a bit. I'll think more about this.

[Fezzik]

3 hours ago, Generalbacon74 said:

baron (one of the ones I saw in my dream) wants nothing to grow not destroy like ruin but make it dead like if there is a tree ant it is growing baron first stops it from growing then it will start to die.

This is one I have never seen proposed before. Where did you come up with the name? Your description sounds more like barren (A place things can't grow) than Baron (A medieval lord)

[Generalbacon74]

That's what I ment barren not baron it was 2 in the morning and that was the only way I could think to spell it.

[Fezzik]

No prob. Everything is difficult to spell at 2 in the morning. Welcome to the shard. Has anyone offered you cookies yet? They're delicious (and ruin your appetite).

[Generalbacon74]

Hey toaster, I have some more ideas for shards I don't know how they would work with the list I have already.

deseption

perfection

restoration

greed or intitelment 

enthusiasm

complication

simplify 

theyre not a great list but it's something else

anf how's primal instead of instinct

Edited October 12, 2017 by Generalbacon74

[The Voiceless One he/him]

In Mistborn, each category of metal had internal/external and pushing/pulling.  I have seen the categories, but I have not seen any mention of what the shardic equivalents of pushing, pulling, internal, and external might be.  I think that a large part of this method of categorizing things is that by using all three ways to distinguish between the shards will help us to narrow down what possible intents may be left.  As an example, there is a distinction between precision and accuracy.  While they are often thought of as similar, they are actually quite different, like how determination and ambition are both a huge drive to achieve something, but are not exactly the same.

[Generalbacon74]

Well I sort of did that the physical shards interacted with the world. The spiritual shards interacted more with the spirit realm. the cognitive shards are a way of thinking and the emotional shards interact with emotions. I hadn't actually meant an equivalent of the allumancy chart it was more to get the Idea i was trying to convey. If it was I'd say physical would be pushing, cognitive would be pulling, emotional would be internal, and spiritual would be external. 

If you have any more questions about how strange the system is or if you have better shard ideas that fit the theme then tell me. I also know that rider of the storms made a similar post but on a divine attributes of god instead of a cosmere invested approach.

[Toaster Retribution he/him]

@Generalbacon74 Deception is a pretty cool Shard. Its the trickster, pretty much. I like it!