Lifeless possibilities

[Draconian]

What possibilities do lifeless have in terms of combining them with the power of other shards? Can you soul cast lifeless into metal? If so, would you have to do it before or after awakening it as a lifeless, and would it still be able to move? I think I remember reading that investiture of different shards doesn't play well together, but I don't really know if that means it would make it impossible, or just take a large amount of either Stormlight or breaths. Could you give them hemalurgic spikes, either in combination with soulcasting to metal or by itself, and make a sort of lifeless supersoldiers? 

[+Extesian he/him]

Hmm you can do this

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EMTREVOR (TOR.COM)

Would an Awakener be able to awaken a corpse that was soulcast into stone more easily because it used to be living, thereby being able to create lifeless similar to Kalad's Phantoms without having bones in the framework?

BRANDON SANDERSON

Yes. That would definitely work.

 

[Draconian]

I'd seen that before, but wasn't sure if that would result in a normal awakening or a lifeless. So it would become a lifeless when turned into stone, so metal should work fine. That alone makes a very potent weapon, something that not very many people without access to some form of magic would be able to take down. I wonder how many breaths that would take, and if you could awaken it with the one breath command then soulcast it to save on breaths or other investiture.

Edited September 28, 2017 by Draconian

[+hwiles]

Vashers "bones in a statue" method would still probably be the most efficient way of creating super-powered lifeless, but soulcasting would allow you to start with a medium like clay, which is easy to work with, and end up with a steel statue, with fully functioning joints with bones at the core, which would be almost impossible to create otherwise.

I'd like to see a lifeless allomancer, or find out if a lifeless parshendi could still change forms.

[The One Who Connects he/him]

4 hours ago, hwiles said:

I'd like to see a lifeless allomancer, or find out if a lifeless parshendi could still change forms.

You'll be disappointed. (page 3)

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little wilson: Can a Mistborn turned into a Lifeless still use Allomancy?

Brandon: *long-ish pause* Uh, no.

little wilson: So I would assume that is the same for a Feruchemist?

Brandon: Yeah if you-- taking some-- Yeah.  No they can’t.

Not too sure about Parshendi, but I'd imagine not. Can't pin down why i think that, but i do.

[Draconian]

Maybe you could do it by giving it hemalurgic spikes for whatever you want to give it, and possibly one for intelligence so it knows how to use it?

[+hwiles]

11 hours ago, The One Who Connects said:

You'll be disappointed. (page 3)

Not too sure about Parshendi, but I'd imagine not. Can't pin down why i think that, but i do.

Given that allomancy wouldn't work, it's probably safe to assume listener forms wouldn't work.

[Yata he/him]

On 29/9/2017 at 6:13 AM, Draconian said:

Maybe you could do it by giving it hemalurgic spikes for whatever you want to give it, and possibly one for intelligence so it knows how to use it?

I believe not.

Hemalurgy work innesting/ripping pieces of Spiritweb.

A lifeless would not have a fully functional Soul so I believe you could not make him an Hemalurgy's recipent generally.

If you craft a Lifeless Soon After Death and he retains more of his Soul... It's more likely to work, but not in a general case

[Betrail]

Simplistic I can think of, give it a shardblade and shardplate, or if you can get around the breath issue a nightblood.

Another possibility, could a soulstamp restore the memories of the former lifeless?