Amended Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) I was rereading chapter 8 when I stumbled on this paragraph?". The city dominated her view. It stretched impossibly high, and she struggled to contain the enormous tower on the page. Jasnah had searched this place out in the hope of finding books and records here of ancient date; so far, they hadn’t found anything like that. Instead, Shallan struggled to understand the tower. (Bold is mine) it seems to be implying that Jasnah has already returned from her pleasure walk with Wit, and that she's actively working in Urithiru. Furthermore, the "they" makes it seem like she's already contacted Shallan. I'm just about certain I'm reading this wrong, could someone explain? edit: spellcheck'd Edited September 18, 2017 by Amended
BlackYeti he/him Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 I'm pretty sure that it's saying that Jasnah had searched for Urithiru, not that she had actually searched in Urithiru. So I don't think she's there yet. I think that it would have made a big deal out of her arrival. 1
Watchcry he/him Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 I thought the same thing but @blackyeti is correct I think
OrangeJedi he/him Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 I agree with @BlackYeti and @Watchcry, I read it as Jasnah was looking for the city to find ancient records (which she was in WoR), and that they had not found any records or anything resembling a library. 1
CaptainRyan he/him Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 The "they" in that sentence is the group Shallan is with (those who came to Uruthiru with Dalinar) and does not reference Jasnah. "Jasnah had searched this place out in the hope of finding books and records here of ancient date; so far, [Dalinar and Co.] hadn’t found anything like that."
Sirscott13 he/him Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 I think Jasnah is headed to check on the queen and capitol with the hope that the others get the oathgate there operational
Ansalem Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 Considering everyone there thinks Jasnah is dead, I doubt Brandon would just make an off-hand comment about her being there. There would be at least a good chunk of a chapter dedicated to her return, surely.
Andy92 Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 As others have said, the comment is meant to be interpreted as "Jasnah searched Urithiru out" as in she was trying to find the city. It doesn't mean she is physically in Urithiru, searching its halls and floors. Shallan is thinking back to all the work that Jasnah was doing in her research in an attempt to find the city.
OathKeeper Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 I'll be disappointed if Jasnah doesn't take advantage of the facts that 1) everyone thinks she's dead and 2) the most urgent parts of her message have already been discovered. That + elsecalling and she is the perfect intelligence officer for Dalinar. Hope she contacts him privately before coming out in the open. Maybe she can do some recon to check out the Sons of Honor/diagram/ghostbloods
Amended Posted September 19, 2017 Author Posted September 19, 2017 It's making more sense. Since she can Elsecall, it wouldn't be too far off, but the lack of reactions do kill it
Watchcry he/him Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) Too bad she doesn't know where Urithiru is. She probably isn't even aware of the Oathgate locations. I believe she's doing what Kaladin is and will ask for infused gems. If I were Jasnah, I'd display my shardblade, simply ask to see the infused gems, suck in the Stormlight and move on. Edited September 19, 2017 by Watchcry 1
Lightspine Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 WAIT A MINUTE What if she's that random messenger girl who was asking Shallan stuff about being a radiant, and she was disappointed that Shallan wasn't rebelling enough against the sexism of the society? Could she pull of a disguise like that? She doesn't have lightweaving, but who knows maybe good makeup or something, and those eye-darkening drops. Who knows, she could probably soulcast a mask... I would say this theory is pretty out there and I don't really believe it but I find it a fun possibility.
platnumkid Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 5 hours ago, OathKeeper said: That + elsecalling and she is the perfect intelligence officer for Dalinar. Hope she contacts him privately before coming out in the open. Maybe she can do some recon to check out the Sons of Honor/diagram/ghostbloods You are right, but I feel like it doesn't fit. Dalinar doesn't even know any of these groups exist yet. From his POV there is no need for a covert intelligence network. Sure they need info on the voidbringers and what "the enemy" is upto but he should view this more as scouting and recon than infiltration. At least thats how I believe Dalinar would look at the current situation. 4 hours ago, Watchcry said: If I were Jasnah, I'd display my shardblade, simply ask to see the infused gems, suck in the Stormlight and move on. Jasnah doesn't need to show anyone anything, she's Jasnah, people will just cave to her force of will and gravitas, as she tried to teach Shallan how to do before the Winds' Pleasure was sunk.
Lightspine Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 5 hours ago, Lightspine said: WAIT A MINUTE What if she's that random messenger girl who was asking Shallan stuff about being a radiant, and she was disappointed that Shallan wasn't rebelling enough against the sexism of the society? Could she pull of a disguise like that? She doesn't have lightweaving, but who knows maybe good makeup or something, and those eye-darkening drops. Who knows, she could probably soulcast a mask... I would say this theory is pretty out there and I don't really believe it but I find it a fun possibility. Guys this was originally almost a joke but I'm beginning to like this theory. It sort of explains why that scout acted with a complete lack of formality: she didn't bow and even went flipping through Shallan's notebook without permission. That doesn't seem normal to me. To completely crash this theory, Dalinar calls the scout by name - Lyn. Is that a complete dealbreaker for her being Jasnah?
+Extesian he/him Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 The scout is...wait for it... ... VIVENNA 8
OathKeeper Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 6 hours ago, platnumkid said: You are right, but I feel like it doesn't fit. Dalinar doesn't even know any of these groups exist yet. From his POV there is no need for a covert intelligence network. Sure they need info on the voidbringers and what "the enemy" is upto but he should view this more as scouting and recon than infiltration. At least thats how I believe Dalinar would look at the current situation. Oh, but Jasnah knows about at least the ghost bloods. She should initiate this plan and just kind of let Dalinar know "Hey, I'm a KR too, so consider Elsecallers founded or whatever but I've got some krem to take care of so see you later!"
dendrophobe he/him Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 6 hours ago, Extesian said: The scout is...wait for it... ... VIVENNA That... Actually makes a lot of sense. Well done, sir.
DiamondMind he/him Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 14 hours ago, Extesian said: The scout is...wait for it... ... VIVENNA You, sir, get ALL the upvotes!
CaptainRyan he/him Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) On 9/18/2017 at 11:36 PM, Lightspine said: Guys this was originally almost a joke but I'm beginning to like this theory. It sort of explains why that scout acted with a complete lack of formality: she didn't bow and even went flipping through Shallan's notebook without permission. That doesn't seem normal to me. To completely crash this theory, Dalinar calls the scout by name - Lyn. Is that a complete dealbreaker for her being Jasnah? I'm going with 100% NopeTM As in, not Jasnah. Edited September 21, 2017 by CaptainRyan 2
Lightspine Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 I know, I looked up "Lyn" and she was a scout during the battle of Narak so that was a complete theory crasher. Oh well, it was funny to think about.
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