Sirscott13 he/him Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 In the early chapter where kaladin is walking home, he had the honorblade, I found no mention of it in the newest chapter and seems like it would have stuck out to people when he arrived, did he bond it? Leave it? Or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 The blade hasn't been seen since the end of WoR. We don't know where it is yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirscott13 he/him Posted September 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Just now, Calderis said: The blade hasn't been seen since the end of WoR. We don't know where it is yet. Seems like that's an important object to decide where it is. And in the rough draft chapters kaladin had it. Now he doesn't. So I'm just curious what happened if anyone knows or has a theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Just now, Sirscott13 said: Seems like that's an important object to decide where it is. And in the rough draft chapters kaladin had it. Now he doesn't. So I'm just curious what happened if anyone knows or has a theory There's tons of speculation but that's it. Dalinar gave it to Navani/Elhokar. Kaladin bonded it to keep it hidden. It's hidden somewhere in Urithiru/Little Herdaz It's all guesswork. Until we hear or see about the blade in OB it's all guesswork. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondMind he/him Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 He definitely had it when in Urithiru, since Dalinar sees him with it. No one mentions it after that scene though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteLeeopard she/her Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 I hope anyone other than Elhokar has it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirscott13 he/him Posted September 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 I know that Brandon said it wouldn't help kaladin's powers get stronger, but I hope Kaladin doesn't give it to someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteLeeopard she/her Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 I'd be ok with it going to Adolin in the short run, just for basic perks of drawing stormlight. But more permanently my top picks would be someone reliable of Bridge 4. Teft or Skar would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansalem Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 3 hours ago, WhiteLeeopard said: I'd be ok with it going to Adolin in the short run, just for basic perks of drawing stormlight. But more permanently my top picks would be someone reliable of Bridge 4. Teft or Skar would be good. Since Bridge 4 are already squires I doubt it will go to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxal she/her Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 With Elhokar who is playing at being sick and injured all the while he is secretly bonding the Blade Dalinar gave him in compensation for having taken control of the kingdom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 2 hours ago, maxal said: With Elhokar who is playing at being sick and injured all the while he is secretly bonding the Blade Dalinar gave him in compensation for having taken control of the kingdom. Except an Honorblade bonds to whoever holds it. There's no week wait like with a deadblade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteLeeopard she/her Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 6 hours ago, Ansalem said: Since Bridge 4 are already squires I doubt it will go to them. I guess it will depend on how much they gain from been squires. Truly, I'm more concerned with ensuring the Honorblade doesn't end up in the wrong hands than taking advantage of its power. Sometimes its better power remains unused than to see it used for the wrong purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 The Honorblade have to be at Urithuru not with Kal as in WoB. Brandon stated that "trying to operate the Oathgate with the Honorblade will be one of the first tests they will try" and as Kaladin is far from Urithuru I will remove him from the candidate. So Rather than leave an Honorblade aroung is better to make it bond to someone and use secretly this as safeguard. For now I believe strongly this is Dalinar but he could gave the Honorblade to someone else in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalrift Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 I thought that they would try to analyse the honorblade, so that they could use that information to improve the general understanding of fabrial technology. I don't think Dalinar is just going to hand it to anyone he chooses, as it is very important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 4 hours ago, Metalrift said: I thought that they would try to analyse the honorblade, so that they could use that information to improve the general understanding of fabrial technology. I don't think Dalinar is just going to hand it to anyone he chooses, as it is very important. This is exactly why I think he gave it to Navani. Study the blade for fabrials, let her fly away from danger, and it's Alethkar. No one expects women to have blades. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace21 he/him Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 (edited) The blade wouldnt be of any help in developing fabrials surely? Have I missed something? None of the abilities of any honorblade relate to fabrials. Sure a fabrial may be able to produce similar effects but the mecanism is competely different. Edited September 16, 2017 by Jace21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Jace21 said: The blade wouldnt be of any help in developing fabrials surely? Have I missed something? None of the abilities of any honorblade relate to fabrials. Sure a fabrial may be able to produce similar effects but the mecanism is competely different. I'm having trouble finding the WoB at the moment, but Brandon has said the Honorblades are a mechanical means of accessing surgebinding. I imagine they're somewhere between surgebinding and modern fabrials, and much much closer to ancient fabrials than either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalrift Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 To me, Honorblades feel like fabrials, just ones made by Honour and thus far better than ordinary fabrials. After all, we know that fabrials are capable of replicating surges: Quote Interview: Oct 5th, 2013 Steelheart Signing Report - Argent (Paraphrased) Question Fabrials replicate Soulcasting abilities. Is it possible for fabrials to replicate all such Surgebinding abilities? Brandon Sanderson Yes, good question! Fabrials can replicate all of the Surgebinding abilities. Tags fabrials, surgebinding, and there is even this WoB: Quote Interview: Mar 21st, 2014 WOR Signing Table Q&A (Verbatim) Leiyan I'm guessing it's a RAFO, but why do Honorblades work the way they do? Brandon Sanderson Honorblades were crafted before Shardblades existed-- Leiyan So they were crafted. Brandon Sanderson They were crafted before Shardblades existed, and all Shardblades that exist came about as certain individuals trying to find out how to copy Honorblades. Leiyan So would it be fair to say that Honorblades are analagous to fabrials in some sense? Trap spren in a crystal yada yada Stormlight power? Brandon Sanderson There is an analogy there, that I think would pass the SAT's rigor for analogies. Tags honorblades, shardblades, fabrials, spren, so Honorblades are definitely analogous to the fabrials we have seen. In addition, we know that there are fabrials that do not use spren, ie Soulcasters. For these reasons, it may be possible to use the Honorblade to gain a better understanding of fabrial tech, if they recognise the similarity (although they may find them as difficult to understand as the soulcasters). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Who Connects he/him Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Jace21 said: None of the abilities of any Honorblade relate to Fabrials. Sure a Fabrial may be able to produce similar effects but the mechanism is completely different. See, you know that. Does Navani know that? Does Dalinar know that? For the second time this week: On 9/13/2017 at 6:33 PM, The One Who Connects said: We have information that they don't have. What if that makes our perspective wrong this time? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostlander Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 Navani was pretty excited when scholars (inspired by the ardent Rushu) found out that shardblade gems were added later as ornamentation. I know it very neatly foreshadowed things we later learned about blades, but Navani, Rushu, and maybe Shallan could eventually figure some stuff out about honorblades and fabrials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, Jace21 said: The blade wouldnt be of any help in developing fabrials surely? Have I missed something? None of the abilities of any honorblade relate to fabrials. Sure a fabrial may be able to produce similar effects but the mecanism is competely different. The Honorblades are tools to mechanically access Surgebinding. The ancient fabrials (Soulcasters or the Regrowth Fabrial we saw) are tools to mechanically accesa Surgebinding. You could easily see the link between the two. Probably the Honorblades are Simply "Shardblade-class Fabrial" (as we saw It's possible to craft "Shardblade-class" stuff with the right skills and resources) Edited September 17, 2017 by Yata 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirscott13 he/him Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 So making the best champion against odium would probably loading an individual up with all the honor blades/surge binding fabrials so that they could use any of the powers right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salkara Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 My best bet is with Elhokar. Quote Dalinar winced. “I have things to discuss with you. Plans that you might appreciate. But for tonight, I simply ask your blessing, if you can find it to give.” Emphasis mine. This is the basis for my flimsy belief that Dalinar gave the Honorblade to Elhokar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyodor Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Seems like Kaladin would be reluctant to give it to anyone to use, given Syl's opinions on how dangerous it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRyan he/him Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 55 minutes ago, fyodor said: Seems like Kaladin would be reluctant to give it to anyone to use, given Syl's opinions on how dangerous it is. Dalinar is not just anyone haha. Any Syl likes Dalinar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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