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So in the Ars Arcanum in Bands of morning, in the section where it is discussing the three metallic arts, it mentions that it is possible to create a whole new set of sixteen alloys to fuel allomancy when you mix a metal with one of the god metals, making a total of 50 different metals that can grant abilities. I have a couple of questions that stem from this point. First of all, are there allomancers that can only burn one of these alloys, or if you can burn pewter, and you also burn the other alloys based off of it, for example, a mix of pewter and atium? Second question I have is something relating to the other shards in the cosmere. Ruin was trapped in the liquid metal made up of Preservation, and we see one other metallic pool made in Elantris, the pool that would let the Elantrian's die. Does this mean that Dominon and the other shards have beads of metals that would grant allomantic abilities, and create more sets of allomantic alloys? The possibilities are endless!

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Technically the number would be in the million range for all possible alloys of God metals but there is a caveat. For a metal to be allomantically 

http://www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=1160#72

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If another Shard came to Scadrial, would that be enough to create a godmetal?

BRANDON SANDERSON

If another shard just came to visit, probably not.

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If they brought a spren or-

BRANDON SANDERSON

If they came and completely Invested the world, then things might start happening. But there's some special circumstances, remember. Ruin and Preservation created that planet. Specifically. And so there's some goofy things that happened because of that. For instance Roshar was not made by Honor, Cultivation, or Odium. That's one of the big differences about what's going on there.

So for now at least, there should only be metals of Ruin and Preservation. 

Certain events say that may not be true anymore though. 

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1 hour ago, Calderis said:

Technically the number would be in the million range for all possible alloys of God metals but there is a caveat. For a metal to be allomantically 

Specifically i put it at 2^20 or a bit higher than a million.  orders of magnitude higher if there is a difference between an alloy of 2 god metals vs the god metal you'd get if you managed to hold/fuse both of those shards together (e.g. if there is a difference between an atium/lerasium alloy and harmonium created from the fused shard).

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15 hours ago, Bork said:

First of all, are there allomancers that can only burn one of these alloys, or if you can burn pewter, and you also burn the other alloys based off of it, for example, a mix of pewter and atium?

Presumably there are no naturally occurring Mistings who could burn atium alloys. We'll ignore lerasium since it has 'anyone can burn it' as an explicit property and a lerasium Misting would be even less impressive than a Gnat. And for atium, we're told that Preservation had to mess with the system to make the Seers in Hero of Ages work, so the system probably isn't set up to allow for, say, a malatium Misting.

We know for sure that you can't burn alloys just because you can burn the base metal. For example, a Rioter can't also burn Brass even though it's an alloy incorporating the metal that the Rioter can burn. If this wasn't the case then the test Kelsier used to see if Vin was a Mistborn or just a Misting wouldn't have made any sense.

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Second question I have is something relating to the other shards in the cosmere. Ruin was trapped in the liquid metal made up of Preservation, and we see one other metallic pool made in Elantris, the pool that would let the Elantrian's die. Does this mean that Dominon and the other shards have beads of metals that would grant allomantic abilities, and create more sets of allomantic alloys? The possibilities are endless!

Per Word of Brandon, we know that Investiture condensed in solid form has to take the form of metal so yes, under certain circumstances every other Shard could create a metal. However it would require effort on the part of the Shard to make a metal that could work with a completely different magic system and it wouldn't automatically be Allomantically viable. Brandon has confirmed that Shardblades are godmetal but that they would be difficult if not impossible for an Allomancer to burn due to a combination of 'wrong system' and being heavily Invested. Here's another quote on the topic:

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If Odium were lured to Scadrial, would his physical body turn into a burnable metal? If so, could Harmony create an Odium-metal legion of Mistings to consume and burn it? Would that weaken him sufficiently enough to be killed or destroyed?

BRANDON SANDERSON

The difficulty here is, again, one of Identity. People born on Scadrial have an Identity tied to it and its magic. Odium would have to do certain things to make them able to use a magic he fuels. He has done these things on Roshar, so it's not impossible for him to manage it on Scadrial.

 

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