StormblessDave Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 So we all know that The nightwatcher grants a wish and then delivers a curse.This magic is referred to as "old magic", could this be some twisted form of feruchemy and hemallurgy?(after all stormlight archive events are taking place after mistborn,and i assume scadrial is more advanced so that could be taken as "old") Here goes,So basically The nightwatcher grants wishes by storing up assets in common commodities which could be used instead of the metals freely available at scadrial(like Vasher using stormlight instead of breaths) and the curse is taking stuff from people and storing that in the above said commodities,this process is forgotten by the victims( magic)and to keep the boon one must wear the commodity at all times. It would be cool if some worldhoppers notice this,of course a lot of speculation here but it popped into my head after I read mistborn(I read it after stormlight).Ofcourse there would be obvious limits in the boons possible then,and as for the Taravangian boon and curse maybe since It's linked to a shard(cultivation) it can constantly supply power to the 'commodities '? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 All of the curses we know of are neurological in nature. Lost memories, Numb hands, inverted vision. This has been acknowledged by Brandon. http://www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=977#187 Quote CHEESE NINJA Nightwatcher's curses all appear to be neurological in effect, are the boons limited in any particular manner? BRANDON SANDERSON Yes. So while it doesn't necessarily invalidate your theory, the curses at least do not appear to be "traits." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hwiles Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Didn't one guy get a wagon full of linens/carpets for his boon? I suppose he could've been lying, but my instinct is that the old magic is pretty flexible in its possible boons. At least compared to feruchemy and hemalurgy. You're right to point out that there does appear to be some overlap in their capabilities though, which Im inclined to attribute to their underlying realmatics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Who Connects he/him Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 On 7/26/2017 at 10:16 AM, hwiles said: Didn't one guy get a wagon full of linens/carpets for his boon? It's from the Shalash Interlude with Baxil. Quote Name Request Boon Curse Dalinar Kholin Unknown All the memories of his wife have been removed from his mind. Even when someone mentions her name, all that he hears is a 'whoosh' of air (i.e.: Shshshsh). Av's Father A heap of good cloth; sold to keep his family from starving during the lurnip famine.[1] Sees the world upside down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrorocket1 Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 I briefly looked up all known boon's the nightwatcher gave, and surprisingly we only have two, the one mentioned above and a speculation of av's father that it was something silly like a haircut. Maybe the boon is physical to the curse's cognitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemetha he/him Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 On 01/08/2017 at 6:38 AM, The One Who Connects said: A heap of good cloth; sold to keep his family from starving during the lurnip famine That's the characters interpretation of the boon though. The actual boon could be something like making him more analytical so that he was able to deduce where a heap of good cloth was lost, or maybe he even already had the cloth but it hadn't occurred to him that there was opportunity in selling it (in other words the cloth wasn't the boon, being able to sell it for a good price because his thought process had changed was). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Who Connects he/him Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 On 8/1/2017 at 4:47 PM, aemetha said: That's the characters interpretation of the boon though. Av specifically said that his father received a heap of cloth from the Nightwatcher. If Av is to be believed, his father went to the Nightwatcher empty-handed and returned with cloth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 1 hour ago, The One Who Connects said: Av specifically said that his father received a heap of cloth from the Nightwatcher. If Av is to be believed, his father went to the Nightwatcher empty-handed and returned with cloth. Which still, as a second hand account, is suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Extesian he/him Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 30 minutes ago, Calderis said: Which still, as a second hand account, is suspect. Yeah I could be totes wrong but I refuse to believe that was the actual boon rather than an effect of it. Dude's boon was probably being irresistible to women and he got the cloth from some smitten girl on his way home. I know what I'd tell my kids 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemetha he/him Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 6 hours ago, The One Who Connects said: Av specifically said that his father received a heap of cloth from the Nightwatcher. If Av is to be believed, his father went to the Nightwatcher empty-handed and returned with cloth. I'm not explaining this very well I don't think. What I'm getting at is that Av's father may have travelled there to ask for cloth, returned home with the cloth, but that it seems unlikely that the nightwatcher just gave him cloth. Presumably Av's father doesn't live with the nightwatcher, so some kind of travel was necessary to visit her. My proposition is that the nightwatcher did something cognitively related that led to him acquire a heap of good cloth in the intervening period of time between when he made his request and when he returned home. Aside from the everything else we've seen of her being cognitive related, it just seems very unlikely that the nightwatcher would just give him what he asked for on the spot. Why would a spren have a heap of good cloth lying around? Just in case someone asks for it? If the idea is that she just magics stuff into reality, the closest we've seen to that is soulcasting, and it just seems very unlikely that even if it were possible to soulcast cloth that it would be good quality (soulcast food is considered bland), or fetch a good price (market economics being what they are). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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