iamstick Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Is Eshonai's cometlike spren a form of Radiantism or is it, I'm thinking, the spren that lives in her native gemheart, acting as her soul? The Listeners are kind of crustacean-y and probably count as megafauna? (Do chulls have gemhearts?) When Goatee-Eshonai atunes peace, she hears _herself_ screaming from the spren: Quote “That rhythm! It sounded like . . . like her own voice yelling at her. Screaming in pain. What was that? She shook her head, and found that she had reflexively pulled her hand to her chest in anxiety. When she opened it, the cometlike spren shot out.” It almost seems as if that spren is her soul, distinct from shape-changing spren they bring into themselves during highstorms. I would lean more towards radiant-like-spren if it weren't screaming in Eshonai's "own voice"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 There's a WoB I'll look for that says the comet spren is important to a Radiant order. I'll try to dig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Extesian he/him Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Calderis said: There's a WoB I'll look for that says the comet spren is important to a Radiant order. I'll try to dig. I'm not sure if I'm irritating or useful doing this... Quote Sir Jerric Do we see the highspren at all in Words of Radiance? And if so, do they look like a comet? Brandon Sanderson That's a good question. That's a gooood, good question. I will say this, the comet, hmm, the comet spren. The comet spren is very important to an order of Knights Radiant. Source I think those spren relate to Bondsmiths. You've got the whole thing with Ishar 'solving' the Voidbringers with something unique to their abilities, with the issues around how Parshmen were created, etc. I feel like that spren is a bond-spren, and that it's around her because it's supposed to let a Listener bond with other spren, but it's been supplanted by a voidspren. Speculative but it's what comes to mind. Edited July 7, 2017 by Extesian Posted before I added my thought 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 @Extesian super useful. I actually tried to find it and succeeded and your crazy WoB skills beat me to it. I'm getting better though. I did find it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kered he/him Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 49 minutes ago, Calderis said: @Extesian super useful. I actually tried to find it and succeeded and your crazy WoB skills beat me to it. I'm getting better though. I did find it. Upvote for improvement. Has it been speculated that the comet spren could be the last of the "Big Three"? Stormfather, Nightwatcher, Comet Spren? Now that I think about it, doesn't seem likely. If we hold to a theory that each shard in Roshar has a "god" spren, that would mean the Comet Spren would belong to Odium. But that couldn't be possible due to the WoB about it being related to an Order. God, I hate talking in circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent he/him Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 My headcanon has been that it is less of a spren and more a piece of Eshonai's soul. The change in her character, combined with the forced bond the stormspren makes with her (the spren shoots into her chest even after she is no longer willing to try out this new form) has led me to suspect that she is not so much changed as she is possessed (or controlled). From what we've seen in Mistborn, as well as some WoBs I recall only vaguely, possession in the Cosmere has to do with something hijacking the soul, the Spiritweb, and so my speculation with Eshonai has been that the stormspren replaced some key part of her soul, kicking it out in the form of a spren. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 32 minutes ago, Argent said: My headcanon has been that it is less of a spren and more a piece of Eshonai's soul. The change in her character, combined with the forced bond the stormspren makes with her (the spren shoots into her chest even after she is no longer willing to try out this new form) has led me to suspect that she is not so much changed as she is possessed (or controlled). From what we've seen in Mistborn, as well as some WoBs I recall only vaguely, possession in the Cosmere has to do with something hijacking the soul, the Spiritweb, and so my speculation with Eshonai has been that the stormspren replaced some key part of her soul, kicking it out in the form of a spren. I've always thought the same. When she grabs the Spren and suddenly hears her own screaming... That cemented the idea in my head, and it's going to stay until proven different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiapet Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Kaladin had several scenes early on where Syl was flitting around/messing with him and he just went, "Storming windspren" and didn't think much of it. Eshonai's interactions with the comet spren are remarkably similar to that. With the comet spren stated to be important to a Radiant Order, I think it makes the most sense that Eshonai is a proto-Radiant and her spren is desperately trying to reach her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbazz4 he/him Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 15 hours ago, Calderis said: There's a WoB I'll look for that says the comet spren is important to a Radiant order. I'll try to dig. 15 hours ago, Extesian said: I'm not sure if I'm irritating or useful doing this... I think those spren relate to Bondsmiths. You've got the whole thing with Ishar 'solving' the Voidbringers with something unique to their abilities, with the issues around how Parshmen were created, etc. I feel like that spren is a bond-spren, and that it's around her because it's supposed to let a Listener bond with other spren, but it's been supplanted by a voidspren. Speculative but it's what comes to mind. 15 hours ago, Calderis said: @Extesian super useful. I actually tried to find it and succeeded and your crazy WoB skills beat me to it. I'm getting better though. I did find it. Lol, when i read @Calderis' first post i thought "the next post is going to be by @Extesian. Sure enough when i scrolled down it was there. You guys work well together and do an awesome job putting information and theories out there. Keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, gbazz4 said: Lol, when i read @Calderis' first post i thought "the next post is going to be by @Extesian. Sure enough when i scrolled down it was there. You guys work well together and do an awesome job putting information and theories out there. Keep it up. He does make me look good doesn't he? seriously though, I think we'd a better team if it wasn't for the whole opposite sleep schedule/side of the planet thing. I'll gladly accept all the help I can get though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxal she/her Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 I always thought the comet-like spren was a firm sign of Eshonai upcoming transformation into a Radiant, probably a Willshaper. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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