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Limits on storing F-steel


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4 minutes ago, King Cole said:

Is their a limit where storing F-steel becomes deadly, or is their a point where you cant store anymore speed

I'd assume so. I think the hard limit on physical speed is going to be similar to the limit on pewter. The heart.

Your brain at least, still functions normally while storing speed, so if you decrease your speed to the point that your heart is going to pump too slowly to provide oxygen to your brain, your going to run in to some pretty serious problems. 

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1 minute ago, Calderis said:

I'd assume so. I think the hard limit on physical speed is going to be similar to the limit on pewter. The heart.

Your brain at least, still functions normally while storing speed, so if you decrease your speed to the point that your heart is going to pump to slowly to provide oxygen to your brain, your going to run in to some pretty serious problems. 

Ok, that might make sense, all of the others have pretty obvious points where you have to stop, but i was having trouble figuring out this one

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I think Calderis' reasoning is right. But I think it's more micro. I think it slows down everything, even cells and such, and if you slow yourself down too much your cells stop functioning. Here's a WoB explicitly on the limit if not the exact physiological mechanism

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THOUGHTFUL SPURTS

If there's really no upper limit to feruchemy for practical reasons* , why didn't Sazed just fill steel at ridiculous levels for a few minutes in WoA, and then go back to running instead of leaving his steelminds there?Say, being some 100,000 times slower than he would normally be for about a minute. Meaning that a feruchemist should be able to fill a given metalmind in very short periods of time if you fill at a high enough rate.

BRANDON SANDERSON

The low end is bounded. You can pull out tons--but in filling, you can only go so far. I didn't ever explicitly talk about this in the series, but the implications are there. Not all have the same bounds, but in your example, the body just can't slow beyond a certain point. Think of it this way--you can only fill a weight metalmind with as much weight as you have to give. So you can become very, very light--but you only add to a time for doubling your weight. You can't make yourself 100,000 times slower and gain 100,000 times multiplication. You can give up all of your normal speed, and so when you tap that speed out you are at 200% for an equal period. (And that's a theoretical maximum; realistically, you can only go to down around 75% slower or the like.)

 

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The same with all Feruchemist metalminds, the larger in size and the more pure in their metal composition, the more of an attribute they can store. A small ring can't hold as much as a large bracer. So while storing an attribute can be limited physically by a person, the metalminds can also be just as limiting if not more.

Also, continually storing an attribute can be limiting if you use it too much. For example Atium stores age, but can't make you immortal, as stated in the Coppermind Wiki:

"Also, while able to extend their life greatly, someone Compounding atium is not truly immortal; over time, the amount of youth that they would need to consume (and the amount of atium necessary to allow them to do so) would increase beyond their ability to generate and store it, besides outstripping their physical ability to ingest and burn it."

Overall Feruchemistry does have its limits. Hope that helps King.

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