Khriss 'a disciple'

[Thanatos]

Just talking to my lil bro and he said something interesting.

 

Is Khriss a disciple of Autonomy? 

I found this fascinating. As she is of an autonomous nature. And how did she become immortal 

Edited June 24, 2017 by Thanatos

[kenod]

I have the feeling that if that was the case, Khriss would be allowed access to Taldain, and not be cut off with the rest of the Cosmere.

[Spoolofwhool]

9 hours ago, Thanatos said:

I found this fascinating. As she is of an autonomous nature. And how did she become immortal 

We don't know that Khriss is immortal or even unaging. She has certainly extended her age with regards to the Cosmere through time dilation and possibly other methods, but assuming she's unaging is a stretch at this moment. 

[Thanatos]

Does she use time dilation techniques like Hoid? 

Didnt know that. 

[nervousnerd he/him]

Do you age when you take your physical body to the cognitive realm? We know you can be hurt there so I assume so, but I have just never thought of it before.

[Spoolofwhool]

11 hours ago, nervousnerd said:

Do you age when you take your physical body to the cognitive realm? We know you can be hurt there so I assume so, but I have just never thought of it before.

I would assume so since there's a community living in the Cognitive Realm and it would be hard for that to work if kids born don't age. 

[Calderis he/him]

42 minutes ago, Spoolofwhool said:

I would assume so since there's a community living in the Cognitive Realm and it would be hard for that to work if kids born don't age. 

If aging didn't occur, they couldn't even be born. They'd be trapped at the moment of conception. And even that may not happen if the menstrual cycle stopped. 

Your point stands though. A community has to grow. 

[nervousnerd he/him]

Well, I get what you are saying but if if you have a bunch of ageless people then you can have a community; it is just that since they are not immortal, you will still have a small decrease in population over time due to accidental deaths, etc. That may be slowed further by more people joining the community as they become more cosmere aware but it is still there.

I am not saying that is the case but it is one example of how I would see agelessness allowing a community to exist without new births.

[Spoolofwhool]

2 hours ago, nervousnerd said:

Well, I get what you are saying but if if you have a bunch of ageless people then you can have a community; it is just that since they are not immortal, you will still have a small decrease in population over time due to accidental deaths, etc. That may be slowed further by more people joining the community as they become more cosmere aware but it is still there.

I am not saying that is the case but it is one example of how I would see agelessness allowing a community to exist without new births.

True, but in Silverlight's case, people are born there, live there, and die there. 

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MASON WHEELER

before, I had the general impression that there were maybe... *waves hand* a dozen or so Worldhoppers around, but this [the new book] totally blows that idea away. So, at the time that Khriss is writing the essays, approximately how many Worldhoppers were there in the Silverlight community?

BRANDON SANDERSON

Silverlight is a whole city.

MASON WHEELER

that could mean a wide range of sizes...

BRANDON SANDERSON

a lot bigger than a village. Not saying yet exactly how many people are there, [RAFO card,] but they're not all Worldhoppers. There are people who are born there, live out their whole lives and die there.

[Source]

 

[Thrand_Antharo]

I believe that Brandon said that what happened to the lord ruler was his body trying to catch up to the age his spirit said he was. Therefore aging is a result of changes to the spirit so you would age even in the cognitive realm, although you might not if you were in the spirit realm. 

[Calderis he/him]

3 minutes ago, Thrand_Antharo said:

I believe that Brandon said that what happened to the lord ruler was his body trying to catch up to the age his spirit said he was. Therefore aging is a result of changes to the spirit so you would age even in the cognitive realm, although you might not if you were in the spirit realm. 

The spiritual realm is not time dependent, so being there would be... Interesting. You probably wouldn't age there as time isn't really a thing. 

[Spoolofwhool]

Basically, your spiritual self has an age which it knows you should be at, and it forces the body to match that age. This is why you can't use healing powers to change your age, as healing first takes your spiritual self, which immutably applies your physical age before the cognitive perception changes it. While tapping atium, it changes the age the soul thinks it is, which then produces an effect in the body to match that. TLR died at the end of TFE because the removal of his atiumminds immediately shifted his spiritual age to over a thousand years and changed his body to match that. As one thousand year old human bodies are non-functional, he proceeded to die. 

If you could, and managed to move your body to the spiritual realm, you probably still would physically age. Time doesn't exist as a constraint there, but it still exists as a concept and a factor and I think your physical body would still undergo the effects of it, partially because it was created as a body which ages.

Edited June 27, 2017 by Spoolofwhool

[Calderis he/him]

11 minutes ago, Spoolofwhool said:

If you could, and managed to move your body to the spiritual realm, you probably still would physically age. Time doesn't exist as a constraint there, but it still exists as a concept and a factor and I think your physical body would still undergo the effects of it, partially because it was created as a body which ages.

With no location, or time I don't think you would. But I also think that from your perspective you'd either be trapped in a seemingly eternal limbo and be assaulted by all of the information you are connected to coming at you at once in a way your physical body was never meant to process. 

If you then were ejected from the spiritual realm, no time would have passed, and you'd be pretty severely mentally broken from the ordeal. 

Pure speculative opinion, but there you go. 

[+Extesian he/him]

The only thing I'll add to Spool's answer is my thought about why the Spiritual aspect 'ages'. I think it's Connections to other things makes it always know the age it should be. If you're connected to a thousand other things on the Spiritual Realm, and those things all have physical and cognitive aspects that all insist it's the same time, that feeds back to your spiritual self as a type of error correction.