Glamdring804 Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 11 hours ago, jofwu said: He does have the Szeth flashbacks written, so if Stones Unhallowed is next then that helps a lot probably. It all really boils down to how many other things he tries to juggle. If he finishes writing Lost Metal and any other planned books this year (pretty reasonable, I'd guess) Then he has all of 2018 to write book 4 and all of 2019 to polish it and release at the end of the year. An early 2020 book 4 release seems very possible. Yeah, he will probably write one book after he finishes Oathbringer revisions, do another over autumn, do his third "burger and fries" book early 2018, and spend the rest of 2018 writing Stormlight, and finish it sometime in the first third of 2019. That would put it out sometime in early 2020, which is pretty reasonable.
Guest Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 9 hours ago, dionysus said: Too many viewpoint characters is a definite negative in my mind. It is why I abandoned ASOIAF at book 2 and why I can't reread WoT even though when I was younger I probably reread the first 5 books 6 times. If he keeps his core characters without much expansion I am ok with more word count per character, but if he is reducing word count per character and increasing characters I fear for later books. Hearing him speak in Houston during the WoR book tour, he seemed to be actively trying to avoid character bloat. I hope he is not reconsidering for the sake of plot or world-building. I want a characterization first author, we have enough world-building focused authors already. I am split on this one. On one side, I absolutely loved WoT and I never complained over the increasing number of viewpoints. On the other side, I feel considerably more attached to SA characters which might be why being "forced" read about "other" characters doesn't currently sound incredibly "tempting". Hence, I am split. So far, we do know the three major protagonists: Dalinar, Kaladin and Shallan. Then, we have the important protagonist: Jasnah, Szeth, Eshonai, Moash, the Interlude character and the Part 2 featured protagonist if it turns out not being Moash as I suspect it is. After, we have the lesser protagonists with occasional viewpoints (2-3 chapters): Adolin and Navani Finally, comes the occasional protagonists and most of the interlude characters including: Teft, Rock, Drehy, Lift and Rysn if she isn't the interlude character as I suspect she might be. The first two groups will probably occupy 95% of the main narrative, the remaining 5% being allocated in between the third group and he bridgemen: 1 to 3 viewpoints maximum per character. So I don't know how it will flow... I remain very worried about Part 2. I will really need to RAFO to see if this book can top WoR, but I feel, for me as a reader, no book will top WoR, especially not Oathbringer.
Ammanas Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, maxal said: I am split on this one. On one side, I absolutely loved WoT and I never complained over the increasing number of viewpoints. On the other side, I feel considerably more attached to SA characters which might be why being "forced" read about "other" characters doesn't currently sound incredibly "tempting". Hence, I am split. So far, we do know the three major protagonists: Dalinar, Kaladin and Shallan. Then, we have the important protagonist: Jasnah, Szeth, Eshonai, Moash, the Interlude character and the Part 2 featured protagonist if it turns out not being Moash as I suspect it is. After, we have the lesser protagonists with occasional viewpoints (2-3 chapters): Adolin and Navani Finally, comes the occasional protagonists and most of the interlude characters including: Teft, Rock, Drehy, Lift and Rysn if she isn't the interlude character as I suspect she might be. The first two groups will probably occupy 95% of the main narrative, the remaining 5% being allocated in between the third group and he bridgemen: 1 to 3 viewpoints maximum per character. So I don't know how it will flow... I remain very worried about Part 2. I will really need to RAFO to see if this book can top WoR, but I feel, for me as a reader, no book will top WoR, especially not Oathbringer. Repeat after me: "In Brandon We Trust" 5
Guest Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 Just now, Ammanas said: Repeat after me: "In Brandon We Trust" This is hard coming from a non believer , but I am trying. I am really trying. I am notorious for it: if someone says "black", I'll say "white". I have no idea why.
Ammanas Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 Just now, maxal said: This is hard coming from a non believer , but I am trying. I am really trying. I am notorious for it: if someone says "black", I'll say "white". I have no idea why. I know your a big WoT fan, but I really believe Brandon learned a lot from that series and what works, what doesn't, potential traps and obstacles to overcome etc. He will apply that knowledge to SA.
Flynn Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) I hope Brandon will be writing future SA books with a 3-ish year gap after this, as while writing Oathbringer he also wrote the Szeth flashbacks (as mentioned by @jofwu), he wrote Snapshot, he wrote Edgedancer and AU stuffing, and he went on an AU tour. Edited March 18, 2017 by Flynn
Andy92 Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 I know he needs to finish the last Wax and Wayne Mistborn book fairly soon. But I think he needs to give Mistborn a break for a few years after he finishes the next book so he can focus on SA. I agree that 3 year gaps are better than 4. His hardest task is trying to build the Cosmere while having such a massive series like SA as its core. He wants time for Elantris sequels and Mistborn along with his short stories and non-Cosmere works. Not that I'm complaining...just would like to finish SA within the next 20 years instead of 30 lol.
Ammanas Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 20 minutes ago, Andy92 said: I know he needs to finish the last Wax and Wayne Mistborn book fairly soon. But I think he needs to give Mistborn a break for a few years after he finishes the next book so he can focus on SA. I agree that 3 year gaps are better than 4. His hardest task is trying to build the Cosmere while having such a massive series like SA as its core. He wants time for Elantris sequels and Mistborn along with his short stories and non-Cosmere works. Not that I'm complaining...just would like to finish SA within the next 20 years instead of 30 lol. I think most fans want him to work primarily on SA, but it will not happen. He has stated many times how draining it is working on this series and that refreshes himself writing other books in the cosmere.
Glamdring804 Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 9 hours ago, Ammanas said: I think most fans want him to work primarily on SA, but it will not happen. He has stated many times how draining it is working on this series and that refreshes himself writing other books in the cosmere. I am definitely not one of these fans. I like my Cosmere to have variety.
Zennix he/him Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 3:34 AM, ZenBossanova said: I wonder if Brandon would let other quality authors work on parts of the Cosmere that are not quite as central, like White Sand or some of his unpublished works (Dark One, Silence Divine, etc). There was an interesting post over on Reddit, trying to predict how long it would take to finish the Cosmere, and if Brandon would last long enough to do it. There is a decent chance he won't have enough time to finish it. You very legitimate concerns, but I think that having other authors write his books will take away the Brandon Sanderson feel from his books. This, I think, is a very important part of why fans love his books. I actually wish that some authors will allow him write some of their books. 2
Farnsworth Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 I agree. White Sand is the closest that Sanderson has come to allowing another author to write one of his books (they did the dialogue), and it was one of the least good Cosmere books in my opinion. On the other hand, his Wheel of Time books were as close as hit has come to him writing other author's books, and it they were quite good!
Windrunner he/him Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 The graphic novel actually pulled at least some of its dialogue from the book. Not all of it though, as far as I recall. I definitely am worried about future graphic novels, beyond the content of the original novel and the quality of dialogue we'll see there.
Andy92 Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 While this is on topic...I haven't read White Sand in AU yet. What exactly does AU include from this story? I see a graphic novel, and after that, there's a few pages of text with a Prologue and Chapter One. Does AU show a preview of the written novel as well as the graphic novel? From what I've found online, I don't think the written novel was released, but some people have the transcript for it?
Ammanas Posted March 19, 2017 Posted March 19, 2017 5 hours ago, Andy92 said: While this is on topic...I haven't read White Sand in AU yet. What exactly does AU include from this story? I see a graphic novel, and after that, there's a few pages of text with a Prologue and Chapter One. Does AU show a preview of the written novel as well as the graphic novel? From what I've found online, I don't think the written novel was released, but some people have the transcript for it? AU has the prologue and ch 1 of the written form of White Sand in addition to the first 15 or so pgs of the graphic novel. You can do, as many others have done, and email Brandon (address found on official webpage) and ask for a digital copy of the prose version of White Sand; his assistant will email you one in 1 week to 6 months depending on how lucky you are.
Jondesu he/him Posted March 19, 2017 Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Ammanas said: AU has the prologue and ch 1 of the written form of White Sand in addition to the first 15 or so pgs of the graphic novel. You can do, as many others have done, and email Brandon (address found on official webpage) and ask for a digital copy of the prose version of White Sand; his assistant will email you one in 1 week to 6 months depending on how lucky you are. Better yet, @Andy92 go to his Facebook page and send a message to his assistant Adam that way. I got my copy of White Sand the next day when I did that. Brandon had posted just this week I think saying anyone who wanted it should do that (I think because the website contact form is overwhelming for them to get through). Edited March 19, 2017 by Jondesu
Andy92 Posted March 19, 2017 Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) @Ammanas @Jondesu Thanks for the tips! I'll try Facebook first if it'll be easier for them to see. Edit: So after checking out his Facebook page, I saw Brandon posted on there that you can get White Sand by signing up for his newsletter. I hadn't done that yet, so that was easy enough! Thanks again guys! Edited March 19, 2017 by Andy92 1
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