+Extesian he/him Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hawkido said: Damnation! HOID, your RatFink! That is yet another bit of investiture you stole. He upgraded from a regular shardblade to an honorblade. I missed that, thanks for pointing it out. I completely forgot it screamed as he unbonded the blade. Except... Quote QUESTION It was not? So what happened to the Honorblade that the Herald had? BRANDON SANDERSON Nobody kno- Well, somebody knows, but it is not known to the main characters. QUESTION Can I ask if uh, Hoid- BRANDON SANDERSON If Hoid knows? QUESTION Yeah. BRANDON SANDERSON Hoid did not take it, but I’m not answering whether he knows.
Steelheart Posted March 21, 2017 Author Posted March 21, 2017 24 minutes ago, Spoolofwhool said: Why are you referring to a person's sDNA being keyed to something when the original idea was about something being keyed to someone's sDNA? In any case, stormlight keys easily. When you're using shardplate the stormlight in the shardplate is keyed to you, which prevents other people, like surgebinders, from easily taking it away. Is that canon? I thought the reason Surgebinders couldn't suck in Stormlight from Shardplate had to do with it being so heavily Invested... (We know the Shardplate itself isn't keyed to anyone b/c we see Kaladin use someone else's Shardplate helmet as a glove, and it conforms to his fist)
Hawkido Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Extesian said: Except... So, not Hoid... Not a Main storyline Character. Either the GhostBloods, a stone shaman, or another of the heralds... perhaps Taravangian predicted the event in the diagram. but as Taln is still honorbound he should be able to pull the blade back to him, shouldn't he? Shalash did mention that she should get a shardblade... Even though the heralds were supposed to put them down and never meet again. Except for Nin who was to be on Surgebinder execution duty.
Hawkido Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Steelheart said: (We know the Shardplate itself isn't keyed to anyone b/c we see Kaladin use someone else's Shardplate helmet as a glove, and it conforms to his fist) That was dead shardplate... I have a pet theory that just as Syl had cousins in the windspren the other KR spren types also had cousins (creation spren for the Lightweavers, lifespren for the edgedancers) their shardplate is formed of the cousins of the KR spren. That is how they summon and dismiss the plate piecemeal without putting it on or taking it off. Some of the KR might never have shardplate, as only about 1/4 were strictly military in function according to Jasnah. And most of them were Windrunners. The KR Windrunner that showed up in Dalinar's vision dropped from the sky in shardplate, so either he assembled the windspren into Plate midair (I believe this IS possible) or else Living ShardPlate not only doesn't inhibit surgebinding but rather helps amplify it. Thus the glowy aspect. Edited March 21, 2017 by Hawkido
Spoolofwhool Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 26 minutes ago, Steelheart said: Is that canon? I thought the reason Surgebinders couldn't suck in Stormlight from Shardplate had to do with it being so heavily Invested... (We know the Shardplate itself isn't keyed to anyone b/c we see Kaladin use someone else's Shardplate helmet as a glove, and it conforms to his fist) Shardplate being invested to prevent the removal of the stormlight doesn't make much sense since trying to breath in the stormlight isn't an investiture-based action really. Anyhow, there is a WoB, but I've been unable to find it. Anyhow, I wouldn't be so quick to say that shardplate doesn't key to people just because you can swap pieces between people. It's probably a lot more narrow whereby it's keyed to the person who is wearing the specific piece, that's why they conform the wearer, not some other person who "owns" the greater set.
The One Who Connects he/him Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Extesian said: But yes my theory would be disproven if it turns out someone other than Taln can use his Honorblade. That part of the theory anyway. It's rather unfortunate for your theory, but someone other than Taln could use his Honorblade. Link Quote mooglefrooglian • 1y Did the Heralds ever temporarily swap Honorblades and learn to use more than their regular two Surges? I can imagine some of the Heralds might have wanted to take a break in the middle of a Desolation and spend a few minutes learning to fly. It's tough work, but there's a few perks. 6 mistborn • 1y It has happened. (But it was not common.) 8 Edited March 22, 2017 by The One Who Connects Quote bubble issues 1
+Extesian he/him Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, The One Who Connects said: It's rather unfortunate for your theory, but someone other than Taln could use his Honorblade. Link Aaahh interesting I hadn't seen that one. It was a vague theory looking for any proof or disproof so I'm happy with they. I wonder if it could still be confined to Heralds' use (pre-Oathpact breaking) but either way unless the identity was keyed to any Herald yeah that knocks that one out.
Yata he/him Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 8 hours ago, Steelheart said: Can you give some examples? (To be clear, I'm referring to a persons sDNA being keyed to something) Like other said we have examples as: - Breath trasfert that unkeys the Breath from the previous owner to keys to the new One. - Stormlight who pass from be free avaliable to restricted to the actual user (for example another Surgebinder can't absorb Shallan's illusioni or recover the Full Lashing's Stormlight). - Shardplate work on the same base. You could manipulate his Stormlight while he isn't wear. But when someone wearks and Actives It. The Stormlight is keyed to him. Probably there are other example, I Will expand if they come to my mind
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