Spoolofwhool Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 3 hours ago, cometaryorbit said: IMO Odium Invested in Braize because he found out he needed to if he was going to have a chance against the Heralds. Honor figured out some way to force their conflict into a battle of champions, then gave his champions (the Heralds) so much power that Odium had to fully Invest (trapping himself in the system) to counter it. If that's the case though, then why hasn't Odium had a champion yet? Honor makes it sound like convincing Odium to take a champion would be the first time he has done it. Also, if said champions of Odium are on the same level of the Heralds, why aren't they still around?
The One Who Connects he/him Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 Braize and Spren Quote Brandon Sanderson Only odiumspren are welcome on Braize, but they're different from anything we've seen so far. By technicality, Odiumspren should confirm that Odium is invested within the Roshar system, since he has Spren of his own. Yes, or am I oversimplifying this?
cometaryorbit Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 21 hours ago, Spoolofwhool said: If that's the case though, then why hasn't Odium had a champion yet? Honor makes it sound like convincing Odium to take a champion would be the first time he has done it. Also, if said champions of Odium are on the same level of the Heralds, why aren't they still around? Well, the champions thing might be the wrong wording on my part. But I think Honor did something relating to the rules binding Shards that he mentioned to turn it into a Heralds vs Voidbringers fight rather than Odium vs Honor/Cultivation directly. IMO Odium's side is still around (at least after the end of WOR) - they're the Voidbringers. They aren't individually equal to the Heralds, but are far more numerous. There's that bit about how Odium waited to let humanity weaken itself... I think the old situation (pre Last Desolation) was getting worse and worse for him. Originally it was just the Heralds opposing him. Then the KR showed up and Odium had to create even more Spren to make more Voidbringers... his Investiture was getting "spread out" - not separated to the degree atium was from Ruin, but nonetheless limiting his ability to concentrate his own power on a single task or target. The difference this time is the lack of Heralds on Honor/Roshar's side (or at least functional Heralds, if "Taln" really is the actual Herald). So it could actually come down to a 1v1 champion battle without collateral damage sufficient to kill off 90% of humanity.
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