Steeldancer he/him Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Ok I found some quotes that suggested that: 1.Adonalsium had an opposing force, that is still around. 2. Adonalsiums 'intent' was to create life. Based on these facts, it would stand to reason that adonalsiums opposite would have the intent of destroying life. So what if shattering adonalsium wasn't enough? What if this opposite now has to get rid of the shards, which share that same purpose? Perhaps this opposite corrupted and empowered Odium to make him more powerful than the other shards, giving him the ability to shatter shards. Then, once he is the only shard left, this opposite force can easily sweep him and all intelligent races from the universe. I know this won't be confirmed or denied for a long time, but just think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagerunner he/him Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Hate to pour cold water on this, but here's another relevant quote: http://theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=1153#16 Brandon interpreted "opposing force" very loosely, and appeared to be referring to the alliance of 16 who killed him and divided his power amongst themselves. So, it's an interesting thought, but the existence of anything like an opposite deity to Adonalsium comes from people running way too far with something that was barely a step above a RAFO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sovereign Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) 11 minutes ago, The Flash said: Based on these facts, it would stand to reason that adonalsiums opposite would have the intent of destroying life. You are making a conclusion here based on a logical fallacy. Correlation does not imply causality. Just because a force opposes something, does not mean that the it is its opposite. The more I consider the "opposing force" the more I think that it just refers to the Vessels of the shard who split up Adonalsium's power and took it for themselves. Rather than an outside influence giving Rayse the ability to splinter other Shards. I suspect that any of the shards has the capacity to splinter a shard (from a raw power standpoint). Each Vessel's lack of skill, desire, and in some cases (like Preservation for example) their intent is really what stops them from doing it. Rayse/Odium on the other hand has the skill, desire, and his Intent plays nicely with destroying other Shards.@Pagerunner, you are a ninja my friend. An upvote for you. Edited November 1, 2016 by Iron Eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeldancer he/him Posted November 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 @Pagerunner I hadn't seen that quite thank you. I'm still trying to figure out how to navigate that website to get to all the quotes. Although am I right in remembering he said at some point that odium is more powerful than the others? And is there a reason why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagerunner he/him Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Just now, The Flash said: @Pagerunner I hadn't seen that quite thank you. I'm still trying to figure out how to navigate that website to get to all the quotes. Although am I right in remembering he said at some point that odium is more powerful than the others? And is there a reason why? Yeah, there's a lot of good info in there, but it can be a little hard to get at. I usually start on this page: http://theoryland.com/wheel-of-time-interview-search.php and either check a tag or use the search bar (since sometimes tags aren't applied consistently). Here's what you might be thinking of: http://theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=1074#1. Since he hasn't Invested (or hadn't until he was trapped in the Roshar system), he may have had more power available. In Secret History, we see that a Shard without a Vessel can be quickly Splintered, so it might have more to do with Rayse as an individual than the Shard of Odium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeldancer he/him Posted November 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Ok thanks! @Pagerunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedal he/him Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 It was said (I don't remember where) that Investing causes a Shard's power to decrease, the more a Shard Invests, the weaker it becomes overall. However, I tend to think of a Shard's powers as a muscle, and as Odium has been using his powers most in order to Splinter other Shards, he would have used his power the most, making it stronger. And by the time of WoK, Odium is considered more force than man, due to having his powers for so long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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