Jasnah and Wit book 3

[bdoble97]

At the end of WOR  when Jasnah comes back from shadesmare Wit/Hoid is waiting for her. My question is will Wit and Jasnah be travel Companions and will we get Viewpoint chapters of them together I know Sanderson's stated he doesn't like writing  about the journey getting to piont A to point B. But I would love to listen to the two of them go back and forth on a journey to the shatter planes. What has Jasnah learned during her time in Shadesmare  does Wit  already know all about shadesmare Does Wit  give Jasnah information that she needs. To help the new KR I think these two journey together to the shatter planes could be very enlightening to both The Stormlight Archives and the overall cosmar. 

[Eki]

I really hope we do get at least one scene, especially from Jasnah's perspective. But I don't think it will be a big, stretched out thing.

It's possible that we won't hear from them until they arrive, though. I think at least Jasnah will share what she knows - she is a scholar after all, and she doesn't have to hide being a KR.

[bdoble97]

36 minutes ago, Eki said:

I really hope we do get at least one scene, especially from Jasnah's perspective. But I don't think it will be a big, stretched out thing.

It's possible that we won't hear from them until they arrive, though. I think at least Jasnah will share what she knows - she is a scholar after all, and she doesn't have to hide being a KR.

I'm thinking if we don't have a Viewpoint of her she will have interludes. Do you think Wit will travel with her the hole time. 

[maxal she/her]

I personally do not think we will get any viewpoint featuring them travelling together. I think it more probable we are going to glimpse Jasnah again only once she has arrived to destination. She isn't a main protagonist in SA3, so her journey most likely won't be featured unless something important or decisive happens through it.

[StormyQueen she/her]

I really would like more Jasnah viewpoint... but I think it would be too similar to the journey that Shallan made in the last book, so I think we'll get a few, but not many. Also, I'm not sure that Hoid would travel with Jasnah. He seems like he's doing his own thing for now, and hasn't travelled with anybody before really. 

[Eki]

35 minutes ago, CalypsoDreaming said:

Also, I'm not sure that Hoid would travel with Jasnah.

The Epilogue says they will travel to the Plains together.

[bdoble97]

57 minutes ago, maxal said:

I personally do not think we will get any viewpoint featuring them travelling together. I think it more probable we are going to glimpse Jasnah again only once she has arrived to destination. She isn't

15 minutes ago, Eki said:

The Epilogue says they will travel to the Plains together.

main protagonist in SA3, so her journey most likely won't be featured unless something important or decisive happens through it.

Man I love reading the long journeys  and the side things they do, who they meet along the way. That was one of my favorite things about The Wheel of Time how are the characters outside stories going on while they're trying to get to the eventual goal. And I really like Jasnah as a character. I want book 3 to be even bigger than WOR. 

[PallonianFire he/him]

On 10/23/2016 at 5:41 PM, bdoble97 said:

What has Jasnah learned during her time in Shadesmare  does Wit  already know all about shadesmare Does Wit  give Jasnah information that she needs.

Hoid definitely knows about the Cognitive Realm. Can't speak to what's going to happen to them, because I'm not psychic, but my gut feeling is that we don't get much. It would be a positive minefield of Cosmere info, and Brandon likes to trickle that out instead of dumping it on us (Lift and Wyndle come to mind—whenever Wyndle tries to explain or divulge new info, Brandon has Lift interrupt him or stop paying attention).

[Sandstorm]

I don't think we'll get much POV from either of them.  So much of their knowledge is held as a mystery, and I think Brandon does that intentionally.  It's intriguing and part of the reason that Jasnah had to make a comeback eventually.  We know she's very important, but revealing too much of that importance at once via internal dialogue may be a little too much to fast. 

[Sandstorm]

21 minutes ago, PallonianFire said:

Hoid definitely knows about the Cognitive Realm. Can't speak to what's going to happen to them, because I'm not psychic, but my gut feeling is that we don't get much. It would be a positive minefield of Cosmere info, and Brandon likes to trickle that out instead of dumping it on us (Lift and Wyndle come to mind—whenever Wyndle tries to explain or divulge new info, Brandon has Lift interrupt him or stop paying attention).

Agreed.  Hoid has been around forever.  He knows it all, which is why we won't get his back story until after Stormlight 10.

[Massik he/him]

2 hours ago, SandStorm said:

Agreed.  Hoid has been around forever.  He knows it all, which is why we won't get his back story until after Stormlight 10.

I remember asking Brandon about Hoid's backstory, and if my memory serves me correctly, Hoid's backstory will be in Dragonsteel.  

Edited October 25, 2016 by Massik
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[Eki]

15 minutes ago, Massik said:

I remeber asking Brandon about Hoid's backstory, and if my memory serves me correctly, Hoid's backstory will be in Dragonsteel.  

Yep, that's right.

(tiny Mistborn spoilers)

Spoiler

He'll also be a main character in the last Mistborn era.

 

Edited October 25, 2016 by Eki

[nervousnerd he/him]

The thing I am really wondering is why Hoid found Jasnah in the first place. I mean it may be that even he doesn't know that yet but I don't think his power would have led him there just to meet her and then go back. I suppose it may have been just to get her to Urithuru but I hope there is more to it than that.

[The Ninja Yodeler he/him]

On 10/23/2016 at 8:38 PM, maxal said:

I personally do not think we will get any viewpoint featuring them travelling together. I think it more probable we are going to glimpse Jasnah again only once she has arrived to destination. She isn't a main protagonist in SA3, so her journey most likely won't be featured unless something important or decisive happens through it.

Well, while I agree she isnt the main protagonist, we did get an interlude chapter of some random ardents studying flame spren in some far off tower. And they sure as hell arent protagonists at all. I think its likely we will have a short interlude of Jasnah and Hoid conversing. Probably mostly Hoid being cryptic as usual, annoying the crap outta Jasnah lol. 

[maxal she/her]

Just now, The Ninja Yodeler said:

Well, while I agree she isnt the main protagonist, we did get an interlude chapter of some random ardents studying flame spren in some far off tower. And they sure as hell arent protagonists at all. I think its likely we will have a short interlude of Jasnah and Hoid conversing. Probably mostly Hoid being cryptic as usual, annoying the crap outta Jasnah lol. 

I doubt it would happen merely because we never random Hoid scenes: whenever he is around, he has an underlining purpose. Since Jasnah is not within the main action, it seems doubtful Hoid would randomly tell her a story. I could be wrong, but as of today, such are my thoughts. I do not expect to read any chapter featuring those two characters travelling.

The interludes have a different purpose: world-building and info dumping. As a rule of thumb, to be an interlude character, you need to be completely independent from the main cast, so not Jasnah. Well maybe, but if I follow those updates closely, I think she probably is the Part 4 novella (tertiary character 4). Part 3 novella is Szeth now moved to Part 4 (tertiary character 3). Eshonai is either tertiary character 2 or back into the interludes, I cannot say. Part mystery novella is probably Moash.

A good swap would be to put Jasnah as the interlude novella and have Eshonai as the Part 4 one... but I somehow get the feeling Brandon wouldn't put Jasnah into the interlude. I may be wrong. This plan would put Navani as tertiary character 2 which may fit with events likely to happen in Part 2.

Bear in mind, I have no solid confirmation except for Szeth being either tertiary character 3 or 4 and Jasnah NOT being the mystery novella character.

[The Ninja Yodeler he/him]

Yeah I guess youre probably right. We have to at least get some info from her after she arrives at the Shattered Plains. From a Dalinar perspective I mean. I think you're right though, probably wont get anything from her perspective. And the only Hoid perspectives we've had were from the end of WoK and WoR. Wishful thinking on my part I guess, but I would just really love even a 2 page interlude of their little journey.

[maxal she/her]

1 minute ago, The Ninja Yodeler said:

Yeah I guess youre probably right. We have to at least get some info from her after she arrives at the Shattered Plains. From a Dalinar perspective I mean. I think you're right though, probably wont get anything from her perspective. And the only Hoid perspectives we've had were from the end of WoK and WoR. Wishful thinking on my part I guess, but I would just really love even a 2 page interlude of their little journey.

She is listed as one of the characters we would see moderate amount of together with Szeth, Eshonai, Adolin and Navani. Those five will likely fill out all of the tertiary roles and some of the novellas except the Part 2 novella which was kept a secret (based on a recent WoB, I think it is Moash). I thus expect her to have POV and a tertiary character role would befit her best as it would allow her to have a viewpoint in Part 5. Tertiary character has those. The only tertiary character not having viewpoints in Part 5 is the number 2 which likely is either Navani or Eshonai.

I could also have it completely wrong and Eshonai is tertiary character 1, Adolin brutally dies in Part 2 and/or is sent away for us to never see him again  I mean, we never know...

[Massik he/him]

2 hours ago, maxal said:

I doubt it would happen merely because we never random Hoid scenes: whenever he is around, he has an underlining purpose. Since Jasnah is not within the main action, it seems doubtful Hoid would randomly tell her a story. I could be wrong, but as of today, such are my thoughts. I do not expect to read any chapter featuring those two characters travelling.

The interludes have a different purpose: world-building and info dumping. As a rule of thumb, to be an interlude character, you need to be completely independent from the main cast, so not Jasnah. Well maybe, but if I follow those updates closely, I think she probably is the Part 4 novella (tertiary character 4). Part 3 novella is Szeth now moved to Part 4 (tertiary character 3). Eshonai is either tertiary character 2 or back into the interludes, I cannot say. Part mystery novella is probably Moash.

A good swap would be to put Jasnah as the interlude novella and have Eshonai as the Part 4 one... but I somehow get the feeling Brandon wouldn't put Jasnah into the interlude. I may be wrong. This plan would put Navani as tertiary character 2 which may fit with events likely to happen in Part 2.

Bear in mind, I have no solid confirmation except for Szeth being either tertiary character 3 or 4 and Jasnah NOT being the mystery novella character.

Completely indepenent of the main cast?

In what way?  Szeth certainly interacts with the main cast (I would argue moreso than Jasnah) and has interludes.  

Something will be told of their travelling together at some point, even if it is simply Jasnah recounting (vague) details.  Otherwise, She and Hoid wouldn't have met up.  Hoid is in places for a reason.  If he could have met her elsewhere, there would be no reason for him to meet Jasnah when she exits Shadesmar. 

We could assume that her being in the epilogue was there only to show Jasnah still alive, but Hoid wouldn't need to be present to show that.  

 

I'm not saying there must be travel scenes/ first hand discussion between them, but I see nothing in what's been said to indicate there can't, either.  

 

 

[thegatorgirl00 she/her]

Can you post the WoB that makes you think it is Moash, @maxal? I haven't seen it, and I'm curious what it says. 

[maxal she/her]

18 hours ago, Massik said:

Completely indepenent of the main cast?

In what way?  Szeth certainly interacts with the main cast (I would argue moreso than Jasnah) and has interludes.  

Something will be told of their travelling together at some point, even if it is simply Jasnah recounting (vague) details.  Otherwise, She and Hoid wouldn't have met up.  Hoid is in places for a reason.  If he could have met her elsewhere, there would be no reason for him to meet Jasnah when she exits Shadesmar. 

We could assume that her being in the epilogue was there only to show Jasnah still alive, but Hoid wouldn't need to be present to show that.  

 

I'm not saying there must be travel scenes/ first hand discussion between them, but I see nothing in what's been said to indicate there can't, either.  

 

 

I am sincerely browsing through the nightmare which is Reddit in order to track down where Brandon talked about this particular point. From memory, I recall he said something along the lines of novella character's stories tend to be uncorrelated from the main cast. In other words, their stories do not overlap or not much. For instances, both Szeth and Eshonai were the interlude novella characters and their story was quite independent from Dalinar, Kaladin and co. He mentioned those things while being asked about the mystery Part 2 character: I have thus concluded Jasnah was unlikely as I doubt her story will be a stand-alone. Not now. Too early. 

As for Hoid meeting Jasnah, it may not mean much: Hoid is always around when the Radiants are doing something special, so he was around when Jasnah popped out of Shadesmar. I personally do not read much more than this into it. Jasnah's role in the first arc is supposed to be rather small, so I do not expect much here.

This being said, yes they could be travelling together, but this would mean Brandon having yet another viewpoint from a far away location, which is exactly what he claims he did wrong in WoK Prime. He had too many uncorrelated viewpoints: the story didn't move forward. It is thus, with Kaladin being away, Szeth and Eshonai being away and the mystery novella, I doubt there is much place to put in random scenes with Jasnah trekking on Roshar unless something highly significant happens to her through it. My thoughts are thus Jasnah is the Part 4 novella character and we'll see her again when she finally makes it to Urithiru.

10 hours ago, thegatorgirl00 said:

Can you post the WoB that makes you think it is Moash, @maxal? I haven't seen it, and I'm curious what it says. 

Here it is:

Question: Do you have any further plans about Moash? Will he have more screen time in Stormlight 3?

Brandon: I have big plans for Moash, and he will actually have viewpoints in Stormlight 3. So good question!

He says Moash will not only have a big role, but several viewpoints. This rules out the occasional POV character and the only spot we basically had no one to cast for was the Part 2 novella character. I could be wrong, but the wording make me think he might be.

The only thing currently bothering me with the current planning is Navani... She seems to be a character Brandon always extrapolate on her importance: she has been nothing more than an occasional POV character... So huh where does she stand? Same role? Because right now, there is one character too many for the 4 tertiary character spots. I dunno which one does not fit...

Interlude novella should probably be Rysn.

 

 

[bdoble97]

1 hour ago, maxal said:

I am sincerely browsing through the nightmare which is Reddit in order to track down where Brandon talked about this particular point. From memory, I recall he said something along the lines of novella character's stories tend to be uncorrelated from the main cast. In other words, their stories do not overlap or not much. For instances, both Szeth and Eshonai were the interlude novella characters and their story was quite independent from Dalinar, Kaladin and co. He mentioned those things while being asked about the mystery Part 2 character: I have thus concluded Jasnah was unlikely as I doubt her story will be a stand-alone. Not now. Too early. 

As for Hoid meeting Jasnah, it may not mean much: Hoid is always around when the Radiants are doing something special, so he was around when Jasnah popped out of Shadesmar. I personally do not read much more than this into it. Jasnah's role in the first arc is supposed to be rather small, so I do not expect much here.

This being said, yes they could be travelling together, but this would mean Brandon having yet another viewpoint from a far away location, which is exactly what he claims he did wrong in WoK Prime. He had too many uncorrelated viewpoints: the story didn't move forward. It is thus, with Kaladin being away, Szeth and Eshonai being away and the mystery novella, I doubt there is much place to put in random scenes with Jasnah trekking on Roshar unless something highly significant happens to her through it. My thoughts are thus Jasnah is the Part 4 novella character and we'll see her again when she finally makes it to Urithiru.

Here it is:

Question: Do you have any further plans about Moash? Will he have more screen time in Stormlight 3?

Brandon: I have big plans for Moash, and he will actually have viewpoints in Stormlight 3. So good question!

He says Moash will not only have a big role, but several viewpoints. This rules out the occasional POV character and the only spot we basically had no one to cast for was the Part 2 novella character. I could be wrong, but the wording make me think he might be.

The only thing currently bothering me with the current planning is Navani... She seems to be a character Brandon always extrapolate on her importance: she has been nothing more than an occasional POV character... So huh where does she stand? Same role? Because right now, there is one character too many for the 4 tertiary character spots. I dunno which one does not fit...

Interlude novella should probably be Rysn.

 

 

With you saying there's going to be 4 character novelas how large is this book actually going to be the paperback of WOR is over 1300 pages and there were just interludes. Now that you are saying there will be 4 novelas how pages do they have. I would love a 2000 pg book hahah even though I dont believe that is possible. 

[maxal she/her]

24 minutes ago, bdoble97 said:

With you saying there's going to be 4 character novelas how large is this book actually going to be the paperback of WOR is over 1300 pages and there were just interludes. Now that you are saying there will be 4 novelas how pages do they have. I would love a 2000 pg book hahah even though I dont believe that is possible. 

Brandon said the book would be about 450K words. Last time he posted an update, he mentioned having written some 375K which is equivalent to the length of WoK. It will be massive, much bigger than the first two.

As for which character is who, I believe you might not have seen his SA3 planning... Here it is:

https://imgur.com/LXbynXu

In this, you will note there is a primary main character and two secondary main characters. The first one is Dalinar whom also is the flashback character. So far, the primary main character has always been the same as the flashback character, but it may change in Szeth/Eshonai's books. The last two are Kaladin and Shallan, though which one they are is currently unknown. My thoughts are Shallan is secondary main character one and Kaladin is the second, but I could be wrong. These are based on the fact secondary main character two has no POV within Part 4 and since Shallan is evolving close to Dalinar, it seems strange she wouldn't have POV in any given part, so I figured it might be Kaladin whom is far away, but I could be wrong.

After those three, you have four tertiary character, tertiary character one having considerably more page time than the other three. For these spots, the names we currently have are: Adolin, Szeth, Eshonai, Jasnah and Navani. So there one character too many. On top of the four tertiary characters, there is the Part 2 mystery novella and the interlude novella. Previously, the interlude novella has been Szeth in WoK and Eshonai in WoR. Brandon has said they wouldn't be the interlude novella again, so this one is up for grab. I had thought for a while it might be Jasnah, but Brandon has lately said the interlude typically features characters doing their own things, uncorrelated from the others which more or less ruled out Jasnah as we can expect her to meet her family again. The interlude novella also tend to feature a more or less self-contained story which again doesn't fit well with Jasnah. It doesn't fit well with either Adolin or Navani. 

Navani has never been a tertiary character in previous novel: I believe her page time would rank her more as an occasional viewpoint character more than a tertiary character (those have one or two POV chapter). Brandon mentioned her with the others stating we would see moderate amount of those. Since Navani will also be featured in Dalinar's flashback, it may be why he listed her there. If not, than the only spot I truly see her into is tertiary character 2 which is the one having the least POV and no conclusion in Part 5.

This being said, Brandon also refers to the tertiary character as the Part 3 novella and the Part 4 novella. He said those were the tertiary character, but their story was akin to a short novella, so he might refer to them as well. We do know Szeth was the Part 3 novella character, but he has been moved, temporally, to Part 4. Please note the only tertiary characters Brandon referred to as novellas are the Part 3 and 4 which is why I think they might be Szeth and Eshonai or Szeth and Jasnah. If not, than Jasnah would be tertiary character 2. Adolin is probably tertiary character one, but I haven't gotten any confirmation for this yet. Also, within his writing process, he will write the novellas straight-away, then move to the main arc and later insert the novella chapter all through it. It again bars out characters evolving within the main story arc such as Adolin, Navani and probably Jasnah.

So you see, there is a lot of shuffling around... 

My current thoughts are the following:

Primary character: Dalinar

Secondary 1: Shallan

Secondary 2: Kaladin

Tertiary 1: Adolin

Tertiary 2: Eshonai or Jasnah

Tertiary 3: Szeth

Tertiary 4: Jasnah or Eshonai

Part 2 novella : Moash

Interlude novella: Rysn

Recurring occasional POV character: Navani and maybe, just MAYBE one or two viewpoints for Renarin.

 

Edited October 26, 2016 by maxal

[Massik he/him]

1 hour ago, maxal said:

I am sincerely browsing through the nightmare which is Reddit in order to track down where Brandon talked about this particular point. From memory, I recall he said something along the lines of novella character's stories tend to be uncorrelated from the main cast. In other words, their stories do not overlap or not much. For instances, both Szeth and Eshonai were the interlude novella characters and their story was quite independent from Dalinar, Kaladin and co. He mentioned those things while being asked about the mystery Part 2 character: I have thus concluded Jasnah was unlikely as I doubt her story will be a stand-alone. Not now. Too early. 

As for Hoid meeting Jasnah, it may not mean much: Hoid is always around when the Radiants are doing something special, so he was around when Jasnah popped out of Shadesmar. I personally do not read much more than this into it. Jasnah's role in the first arc is supposed to be rather small, so I do not expect much here.

This being said, yes they could be travelling together, but this would mean Brandon having yet another viewpoint from a far away location, which is exactly what he claims he did wrong in WoK Prime. He had too many uncorrelated viewpoints: the story didn't move forward. It is thus, with Kaladin being away, Szeth and Eshonai being away and the mystery novella, I doubt there is much place to put in random scenes with Jasnah trekking on Roshar unless something highly significant happens to her through it. My thoughts are thus Jasnah is the Part 4 novella character and we'll see her again when she finally makes it to Urithiru.

Here it is:

Question: Do you have any further plans about Moash? Will he have more screen time in Stormlight 3?

Brandon: I have big plans for Moash, and he will actually have viewpoints in Stormlight 3. So good question!

He says Moash will not only have a big role, but several viewpoints. This rules out the occasional POV character and the only spot we basically had no one to cast for was the Part 2 novella character. I could be wrong, but the wording make me think he might be.

The only thing currently bothering me with the current planning is Navani... She seems to be a character Brandon always extrapolate on her importance: she has been nothing more than an occasional POV character... So huh where does she stand? Same role? Because right now, there is one character too many for the 4 tertiary character spots. I dunno which one does not fit...

Interlude novella should probably be Rysn.

 

 

So Hoid says, Hi to Jasnah and they travel together,  but none of it is referenced? 

Again, what's the point of Hoid being there?

He at least usually drops some knowlede, but that's not so mch the case.  If they're headed hack to Urithuru, Hoid went there specifically to travel with her.  She was already headed there prior to shadesmar, so it isn't as if he needed to convince her to go.  

WoB and suppositions on who may or may not ne secondary characters aside,  it doesn't make much sense, IMO.  

 

[bdoble97]

7 minutes ago, maxal said:

Brandon said the book would be about 450K words. Last time he posted an update, he mentioned having written some 375K which is equivalent to the length of WoK. It will be massive, much bigger than the first two.

As for which character is who, I believe you might not have seen his SA3 planning... Here it is:

https://imgur.com/LXbynXu

In this, you will note there is a primary main character and two secondary main characters. The first one is Dalinar whom also is the flashback character. So far, the primary main character has always been the same as the flashback character, but it may change in Szeth/Eshonai's books. The last two are Kaladin and Shallan, though which one they are is currently unknown. My thoughts are Shallan is secondary main character one and Kaladin is the second, but I could be wrong. These are based on the fact secondary main character two has no POV within Part 4 and since Shallan is evolving close to Dalinar, it seems strange she wouldn't have POV in any given part, so I figured it might be Kaladin whom is far away, but I could be wrong.

After those three, you have four tertiary character, tertiary character one having considerably more page time than the other three. For these spots, the names we currently have are: Adolin, Szeth, Eshonai, Jasnah and Navani. So there one character too many. On top of the four tertiary character, there is the Part 2 mystery novella and the interlude novella. Previously, the interlude novella has been Szeth in WoK and Eshonai in WoR. Brandon has said they wouldn't be the interlude novella again, so this one is up for grab. I had thought for a while it might be Jasnah, but Brandon has lately said the interlude typically features characters doing their own things, uncorrelated from the others which more or less ruled out Jasnah as we can expect her to meet her family again. The interlude novella also tend to feature a more or less self-contained story which again doesn't fit well with Jasnah. It doesn't fit well with either Adolin or Navani. 

Navani has never been a tertiary character in previous novel: I believe her page time would rank her more as an occasional viewpoint character more than a tertiary character (those have one or two POV chapter). Brandon mentioned her with the others stating we would see moderate amount of those. Since Navani will also be featured in Dalinar's flashback, it may be why he listed her there. If not, than the only spot I truly see her into is tertiary character 2 which is the one having the least POV and no conclusion in Part 5.

This being said, Brandon also refers to the tertiary character as the Part 3 novella and the Part 4 novella. He said those were the tertiary character, but their story was akin to a short novella, so he might refer to them as well. We do know Szeth was the Part 3 novella character, but he has been moved, temporally, to Part 4. Please note the only tertiary character Brandon referred to as novellas are the Part 3 and 4 which is why I think they might be Szeth and Eshonai or Szeth and Jasnah. If not, than Jasnah would be tertiary character 2. Adolin is probably tertiary character one, but I haven't gotten any confirmation for this yet.

So you see, there is a lot of shuffling around... 

My current thoughts are the following:

Primary character: Dalinar

Secondary 1: Shallan

Secondary 2: Kaladin

Tertiary 1: Adolin

Tertiary 2: Eshonai or Jasnah

Tertiary 3: Szeth

Tertiary 4: Jasnah or Eshonai

Part 2 novella : Moash

Interlude novella: Rysn

Recurring occasional POV character: Navani and maybe, just MAYBE one or two viewpoints for Renarin.

 

This is why I love reading your responses. The answers are always so in depth. With all this information it does sound like book 3 will a monster. 

[maxal she/her]

7 minutes ago, Massik said:

So Hoid says, Hi to Jasnah and they travel together,  but none of it is referenced? 

Again, what's the point of Hoid being there?

He at least usually drops some knowlede, but that's not so mch the case.  If they're headed hack to Urithuru, Hoid went there specifically to travel with her.  She was already headed there prior to shadesmar, so it isn't as if he needed to convince her to go.  

WoB and suppositions on who may or may not ne secondary characters aside,  it doesn't make much sense, IMO.  

 

It makes sense. Hoid has Jasnah draw a Shardblade thus telling us, the readers, she has access to one. He also tells us she is an Elsecaller which wasn't previously known. His presence also indicates her returning in an important event thus settling her as an important character which was not obvious before. Also Hoid's purpose was not to travel with her, but he likely had the sense something important was to happen in this location, so he traveled there, not too sure what he'll find. There is a WoB somewhere which states how Hoid has some sort of inner sense to know where he needs to be, but I am hardly an expert on Hoid, so I'll leave others to comment on it.

What makes little sense is reading Jasnah trekking with or without Hoid back to Urithiru. We must also keep in mind Hoid has a very limited presence into SA: he isn't going to become a recurring character via Jasnah's POV. This will not happen. He will pop in and out, tell a story, just as he has been doing, but he won't become an active character, not in this series. The author has told us as much. hence I do not expect to read several chapters worth of Jasnah discussing with Hoid.

Edited October 26, 2016 by maxal