Radiants During the Weeping

[nervousnerd he/him]

It strikes me that the Weeping would be a very weak time for Radiants. It is mentioned that spheres eventually run out of light before the end of the Weeping. It could prove to be an important plot point later in the series that at the end of every year this happens.

I suppose this may not be the case anymore with the Everstorm disrupting weather patterns though (it may have been more important to past Radiants),

[Spoolofwhool]

Weepings would be pretty bad. Don't forget though that every other weeping had a highstorm in the middle so it wouldn't be that bad. It's possible though that they also had better ways of saving or gaining stormlight. 

[Yata he/him]

I imagine that great gemstone will become much more useful now, other than Soulcasting. They may store Stormlight for long time also during the weeping.

But actually we don't know if the Everstorm changed the Roshar's cycle and if there will be new Weepings

[dvoraen]

On 8/27/2016 at 7:23 PM, nervousnerd said:

It strikes me that the Weeping would be a very weak time for Radiants. It is mentioned that spheres eventually run out of light before the end of the Weeping. It could prove to be an important plot point later in the series that at the end of every year this happens.

I suppose this may not be the case anymore with the Everstorm disrupting weather patterns though (it may have been more important to past Radiants),

It's quite possible that in the past the Weeping was as you say, but there's one possibility I think we'll run into with regards to Urithiru:

Did the Radiants have tools (fabrials?) that allowed for them to stockpile Stormlight?  We know they used fabrials in their work in the past (Oathgates, the possible Regrowth fabrial in Dalinar's vision with the Midnight Essence), so it stands to reason that they could have some that allowed for better retention of Stormlight.

[nervousnerd he/him]

10 hours ago, dvoraen said:

It's quite possible that in the past the Weeping was as you say, but there's one possibility I think we'll run into with regards to Urithiru:

Did the Radiants have tools (fabrials?) that allowed for them to stockpile Stormlight?  We know they used fabrials in their work in the past (Oathgates, the possible Regrowth fabrial in Dalinar's vision with the Midnight Essence), so it stands to reason that they could have some that allowed for better retention of Stormlight.

Even if not, it is possible that there is a way to cut spheres to better allow them to retain stormlight. So much was lost in the desolations. There has to be some way to build up stockpiles of the stuff. The storms give it freely. As Shallan said, stormlight is going to become a very valuable resource in the future.

[Argel he/him]

I think there is a WoB that a perfectly cut gem would not leak.

[Esmer]

Or perhaps those who could transform the food they eat into Stormlight would be gorging themselves and filling gemstones during that time.

[Yata he/him]

13 minutes ago, Esmer said:

Or perhaps those who could transform the food they eat into Stormlight would be gorging themselves and filling gemstones during that time.

Yes but "those who could transform the food they eat into Stormlight" are an anomaly...born from very peculiar circumstances. It's possible we will don't see other Surgebinders with that ability

[nervousnerd he/him]

2 hours ago, Yata said:

Yes but "those who could transform the food they eat into Stormlight" are an anomaly...born from very peculiar circumstances. It's possible we will don't see other Surgebinders with that ability

It isn't even a those. I doubt anyone but Lift has ever been able to do that. It came from the Nightwatcher.

[Sand Master]

On 8/30/2016 at 11:02 AM, nervousnerd said:

Even if not, it is possible that there is a way to cut spheres to better allow them to retain stormlight. So much was lost in the desolations. There has to be some way to build up stockpiles of the stuff. The storms give it freely. As Shallan said, stormlight is going to become a very valuable resource in the future.

Specifically replying to where you mentioned that so much was lost during the Desolations: if I recall correctly, didn't the Recreance, when the KR all "betrayed" humanity, happen after the last Desolation? If so, wouldn't that imply that they had this sort of fabrial technology (if indeed that's what it was) after the last Desolation?

[nervousnerd he/him]

53 minutes ago, Sand Master said:

Specifically replying to where you mentioned that so much was lost during the Desolations: if I recall correctly, didn't the Recreance, when the KR all "betrayed" humanity, happen after the last Desolation? If so, wouldn't that imply that they had this sort of fabrial technology (if indeed that's what it was) after the last Desolation?

Yes and no. There were Radiants left after the desolations (some were mentioned in armor when the Oath pact was 'broken'). But many Knights and regular humans still died with their knowledge. One of Dalinar's visions showed Kholinar full of corpses and the Desolations were getting worse each time. I think knowledge was still lost during the Last Desolation because every other time the Heralds came back they had to teach everything again. Maybe the Radiants had some of the knowledge afterward but I can't see why they wouldn't share it if they did.

[Argel he/him]

3 hours ago, nervousnerd said:

but I can't see why they wouldn't share it if they did

Maybe that's part of the betrayal?