Hoid Sense

[Blightsong he/him]

In the pair few years we have been speculating on how Hoid is able to travel to where he needs to be. We found out via WoB that it involved feruchemy, but nothing else besides that.

While rereading secret history a line by one of the Ire struck me as relevant. He says "Not every coincidence is a sign of someone drawing upon fortune" when talking about the guard having spopted Kel. I think this nails down exactly how Hoid die it. As some have speculated, he, and possibly others, manipulate fortune to find out where to go to accomplish their goals.

Thoughts?

[Otto Didact he/him]

We've seen in Secret History and Bands of Mourning that combining some of the more esoteric Feruchemical powers can have odd effects, so my money is on it being a combination of things.

[Landis963 he/him]

Given that we haven't seen Hoid do anything similar to the normal uses of Feruchemy (storing strength/weight/memories/etc), I'd be willing to bet that his version either only has the bottom half or only the Aluminum/chromium quadrant of the Feruchemy table.  

[Blightsong he/him]

Given that we haven't seen Hoid do anything similar to the normal uses of Feruchemy (storing strength/weight/memories/etc), I'd be willing to bet that his version either only has the bottom half or only the Aluminum/chromium quadrant of the Feruchemy table.

Most Feruchemical attributes are either very subtle exept to the person using them or overtly obvious to the point where Hoid would use it in front of non Cosmere aware characters (or ones he doesn't want to learn that he has Feruchemy). He may be using a different kind of Feruchemy, but I don't think Brandon would have flat out said he uses Feruchemy if it is some wierd Yolish Feruchemy or something.

[Landis963 he/him]

No odd bracers or bits of jewelry to act as metalminds, though. Kelsier would have noticed if he did, by burning steel. (Either during the appointment with him in TFE or when Kelsier was in Fadrex' Cognitive Realm in SH)

EDIT: And if he didn't, then Wax definitely would have during the coin incident.

Edited April 26, 2016 by Landis963

[Blightsong he/him]

No odd bracers or bits of jewelry to act as metalminds, though. Kelsier would have noticed if he did, by burning steel. (Either during the appointment with him in TFE or when Kelsier was in Fadrex' Cognitive Realm in SH)

EDIT: And if he didn't, then Wax definitely would have during the coin incident.

Metal minds don't give off blue lines, the only time this haopened was when Vin burned the mists, it explicitly talks about how the blue lines weren't there until she was able to push on them.

[Yata he/him]

No odd bracers or bits of jewelry to act as metalminds, though. Kelsier would have noticed if he did, by burning steel. (Either during the appointment with him in TFE or when Kelsier was in Fadrex' Cognitive Realm in SH)

EDIT: And if he didn't, then Wax definitely would have during the coin incident.

If the metalminds are  full of Investiture, Steel/Iron allomancy will no detected as metal at all.

Also a Metalmind with a little of charge is hard to push/pull also if you are still able to detect it....but as the charge grows, you will in the end became uncapable to detect the metalmind as metal with Steelsight (and of course unable to push on it)

[Otto Didact he/him]

In addition to the fact that metalminds don't give off blue lines, it's not like Hoid has to be wearing his metalminds all the time. When Sazed left after the Collapse to teach the people, he only kept a few of his metalminds on him.

[Vissy]

That being said, we should compile all of Hoid's descriptions we can find and see if there are any that mention rings, necklaces, bracelets etc. that he wears.

[scottbushee907]

Given that we haven't seen Hoid do anything similar to the normal uses of Feruchemy (storing strength/weight/memories/etc), I'd be willing to bet that his version either only has the bottom half or only the Aluminum/chromium quadrant of the Feruchemy table.

[scottbushee907]

Perhaps zinc? Maybe he stores mental speed for a night out on the town with a bunch of light eyes? Can't hurt to maintain wittiness for the whole party. Not sure that there are any other examples of storing mental speed.

[Landis963 he/him]

Perhaps zinc? Maybe he stores mental speed for a night out on the town with a bunch of light eyes? Can't hurt to maintain wittiness for the whole party. Not sure that there are any other examples of storing mental speed.

 

Storing mental speed (at least at normal rates) makes your thoughts sluggish.  Tapping mental speed allows you to think through actions at speeds that rival the sherlock scan.  We got a doozy of an example of that during BoM.  

[feldi]

Hoid usually wears cloaks or long shirts so his metalminds can easily be hidden beneath them so even if he have some we probably never actually saw it. He probably also have some connection stored which makes it harder for people to ignore him and while storing it makes it harder to notice him I think (like the Gray Men from WoT) which explain how he can get every were, people just ignore him and let him pass like when he visits Kaladin in prison and such

[feldi]

I think that connection is Durlaminmaind

[Ari he/him]

Pretty sure he taps Mental Speed (Zincmind) and Luck (Chromiummind) at the same time before deciding where to go. Maybe tapping some Bendalloy too in order to counter the fact that tapping Zinc makes you hungry.

The Zinc covers the obvious connections he needs to make from the information he already has. The Chromium will help him out with unknowns and making intuitive decisions. He might also keep a Coppermind of relevant information about other planets, perhaps.

[+Kolten]

Also as of the events of WoA he can probably compound. So he would not really have to be storing very much at all after that.