Question 19

[Darkness Ascendant he/him]

57 minutes ago, Edgedancer said:

Sure. We'd have to work out if Stormfront was already in the city or if he's a new arrival but that's not a reason to ban him or anything.

@Darkness Ascendant So looking at his weakness, is the turban meant to hide the afro to keep people from laughing at it or just to not accidentally blind people all the time?
For the afro itself, does shooting fire from it actually cause him to go bald so he has to regrow new hair or is the fire just kind of stuck there?

The Turban is meant to stop people from going blind every ten seconds. And besides, what's funny about a guy with his head on fire??

I should have mentioned he regrows keratin at alarming rates, his burning hair is the only counter against it, although it hurts his head when he concentrates on the pain.

[Edgedancer he/him]

2 hours ago, Darkness Ascendant said:

The Turban is meant to stop people from going blind every ten seconds. And besides, what's funny about a guy with his head on fire??

I should have mentioned he regrows keratin at alarming rates, his burning hair is the only counter against it, although it hurts his head when he concentrates on the pain.

The hair itself not so much but the thought of him proudly declaring himself the Flaming Afro Man to invincible jerks that have no reason to fear fire is somewhat entertaining. 

So what happens if someone dunks his head under water?

[Darkness Ascendant he/him]

1 minute ago, Edgedancer said:

So what happens if someone dunks his head under water?

I haven't thought of that lol, let's just take it that his afro stops being on fire until it's dry, and not that it's a weakness on his part but similar to how David took out that chick who could shrink, by using terminal velocity against her. Not a weakness, but an aspect of physics to be exploited.

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The hair itself not so much but the thought of him proudly declaring himself the Flaming Afro Man to invincible jerks that have no reason to fear fire is somewhat entertaining. 

I should have mentioned he's a dropkick (uneducated, stupid, retarded etc etc)

Edited November 13, 2016 by Darkness Ascendant

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

@Darkness Ascendant, your opening remark was uncalled for. When you submitted your characters last time, I and the players here asked the same sort of questions we have asked each other. Some characters need more editing and revisions than others, and if the player refuses to implement those suggested revisions, opting instead to grow defensive, then that is not the fault of the other players here. 

This is a group game, which means that when designing characters, players need to make concessions so those characters fit into the game and integrate smoothly. That is what the revisions process is for. Players who have submitted to it have left with characters who fit more seamlessly into the narrative and make this game more fun. 

[Blackhoof]

Completely uncalled for. How dare you.

Why on earth would we want to play a game with you if you aren't going to be gracious enough to accept constructive criticism about your character?

[Blackhoof]

@bleeder: I like the sound of your characters. Do you have any plans for stories?

Although I will remind you that Epics are almost universally evil- with very rare exceptions. Is there a reason that Stormfront seems to be pursuing justice, when the corruption should drive such thoughts from his mind? I'm not attacking or anything, just making sure you know how strong the corruption is and that your character's motivations are in-canon  we can work it out.

 

[marsoupial they/them]

3 hours ago, Cognizantastic said:

I'm not the GM, but I do have commentary,  I like both of your characters, but especially Jude. There's nothing wrong with Stormfront; he seems solid, but this game also suffers from a huge Epic overpopulation that, in my opinion, just makes new superpowered characters less interesting. Humans offer a unique perspective that is always fun to read from.

So, I'd recommend that you start with Jude and maybe adopt from there? I know that it's a tad painful to let go of your own Epic, but I think there's a lot of fun to be had from adoption. I've written for... I think eight adopted characters, and made each of them mine in some way. Headshot and Chimera, both characters that I've massively enjoyed writing for, were both created by others. This isn't to discount the possibility of you using your own Epic, of course. Just a suggestion.

What do you plan for Jude to do in Portland?

I already have the first part of a backstory for him.

1 hour ago, Blackhoof said:

@bleeder: I like the sound of your characters. Do you have any plans for stories?

Although I will remind you that Epics are almost universally evil- with very rare exceptions. Is there a reason that Stormfront seems to be pursuing justice, when the corruption should drive such thoughts from his mind? I'm not attacking or anything, just making sure you know how strong the corruption is and that your character's motivations are in-canon  we can work it out.

 

I was gonna go ahead and start on Jude, and mull on Stormfront for a while and decide if I want to play as him at all.

[Quiver he/him]

The Reckoners are, technically speaking, criminals. Their status as such probably varies from state to state -and from town to town, for that matter. Dalles would probably be cool with them,Portland less so.

I mention this because it's got me wondering what crime in the Reckonerverse looks like beyond the Reckoners. Presumably, people didn't stop doing bad things just because epics were in charge.

I really ought to read the books more, since I can't remember the characters name...but the gun runner from the first book seems to suggest smuggling and contraband would be flourishing post-Calamity. 

Not sure how murders and manslaughter would go though. On the one hand, people might be jaded enough by violence to let themselves be pushed into it more...or they might be too owed by epics to risk breaking "their stuff".

Is there still a drug trade? How does one even manufacture drugs Post-Calamity, let alone supply and demand? Would that fall under the smuggling category? Might there be an epic, or an epic enterprise, specifically devoted to creating new forms of narcotics, like an epic!Hisenberg?

Sort of rambling. Sorry. Batting vague character ideas in my head...

[marsoupial they/them]

Just now, Quiver said:

The Reckoners are, technically speaking, criminals. Their status as such probably varies from state to state -and from town to town, for that matter. Dalles would probably be cool with them,Portland less so.

I mention this because it's got me wondering what crime in the Reckonerverse looks like beyond the Reckoners. Presumably, people didn't stop doing bad things just because epics were in charge.

I really ought to read the books more, since I can't remember the characters name...but the gun runner from the first book seems to suggest smuggling and contraband would be flourishing post-Calamity. 

Not sure how murders and manslaughter would go though. On the one hand, people might be jaded enough by violence to let themselves be pushed into it more...or they might be too owed by epics to risk breaking "their stuff".

Is there still a drug trade? How does one even manufacture drugs Post-Calamity, let alone supply and demand? Would that fall under the smuggling category? Might there be an epic, or an epic enterprise, specifically devoted to creating new forms of narcotics, like an epic!Hisenberg?

Sort of rambling. Sorry. Batting vague character ideas in my head...

No, man, these are good questions!

[Blackhoof]

15 hours ago, bleeder said:

I already have the first part of a backstory for him.

I was gonna go ahead and start on Jude, and mull on Stormfront for a while and decide if I want to play as him at all.

fair enough, good to hear

 

7 hours ago, Quiver said:

The Reckoners are, technically speaking, criminals. Their status as such probably varies from state to state -and from town to town, for that matter. Dalles would probably be cool with them,Portland less so.

I mention this because it's got me wondering what crime in the Reckonerverse looks like beyond the Reckoners. Presumably, people didn't stop doing bad things just because epics were in charge.

I really ought to read the books more, since I can't remember the characters name...but the gun runner from the first book seems to suggest smuggling and contraband would be flourishing post-Calamity. 

Not sure how murders and manslaughter would go though. On the one hand, people might be jaded enough by violence to let themselves be pushed into it more...or they might be too owed by epics to risk breaking "their stuff".

Is there still a drug trade? How does one even manufacture drugs Post-Calamity, let alone supply and demand? Would that fall under the smuggling category? Might there be an epic, or an epic enterprise, specifically devoted to creating new forms of narcotics, like an epic!Hisenberg?

Sort of rambling. Sorry. Batting vague character ideas in my head...

good speculation.

I imagine people still murder- most murders are crimes of passion, and people still have relationships. In fact murder is probably pretty high, given the general poverty and mental strain everyone is under. 

Theft is probably common too, for poverty reasons. Gangs are described as being a big part of most cities, and gangs are obviously just semi-organised groups of criminals who steal and murder a lot.

I had some notions of playing a character that was a brutal serial killer. Just like any normal serial killer in the real world, but in this setting. After all, why wouldn't a serial killer play out their urges, even in a dystopian world?

As for the drug trade, I imagine easily-grown drugs are common, depending on the city. However most cities are depicted as barely surviving with barely enough food to live. You can't afford to waste space, water and nutrients growing marijuana when you could be growing tomatoes, after all. For Epics drugs would certainly be in abundance, and I figure only the young adult nature of the series stopped Brandon from mentioning rampant drug abuse among many Epics. Common people don't usually have the means, time, or resources to get even little luxuries in most cases, I'd imagine.

[Darkness Ascendant he/him]

What do u mean uncalled for??? Bleeder's character is OP as hell. I will admit one of my characters was out of canon, but the rest were completely fine. I did relent in the end, and make changes, scrapping the offending characters.

17 hours ago, TwiLyghtSansSparkles said:

@Darkness Ascendant, your opening remark was uncalled for. When you submitted your characters last time, I and the players here asked the same sort of questions we have asked each other. Some characters need more editing and revisions than others, and if the player refuses to implement those suggested revisions, opting instead to grow defensive, then that is not the fault of the other players here. 

This is a group game, which means that when designing characters, players need to make concessions so those characters fit into the game and integrate smoothly. That is what the revisions process is for. Players who have submitted to it have left with characters who fit more seamlessly into the narrative and make this game more fun. 

And I answered them! But you went on, and on, and tried sooo hard to not allow my characters in. You pulled up some stuff on American gold mines, then pulled up some bs on J.K.Rowling being confronted for using Skinwalkers. 

17 hours ago, Blackhoof said:

Completely uncalled for. How dare you.

Why on earth would we want to play a game with you if you aren't going to be gracious enough to accept constructive criticism about your character?

Constructive criticism does not include pulling this up http://www.oregonlive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/03/jk_rowling_embraces_skinwalker.html. Then insulting me.

17 hours ago, Cognizantastic said:

To start on the constructive criticism, I think a deliberately "retarded" character is kind of messed up. I'll also say that your character seems to fit the stereotypes of a stupid African-American (I assume from the afro) man who can't be a productive member of society and ends up in prison. Like Medicine Man/Skinwalker, this feels like a set of racial tropes.

You assumed wrong. He looks like Karate Kyle, but with an afro. And besides, what's wrong with using a character that's stupid? Not all characters are smart, and he came from a messed up family as well.

17 hours ago, Cognizantastic said:

The process you just described is a way to make characters improved, seamless parts of the game (minus part 3, which isn't even true). We are not some sorts of oppressive rejectors -- you are the one who decided to refuse all criticism, instead opting to drop out and come back to demonize current players to @bleeder.

You may also notice that bleeder asked for people to critique on his character. This is the mark of someone who is ready to integrate responsibly into this community. 

Look, man. There are entire topics in this subforum devoted to what a new player needs to do, and none of them are horrifically rigorous or critical -- they're sane safeguards against things that could vitiate the game's integrity, which I myself have used to make myself a better player. I happily scrapped my first two character ideas, and came back better for it.

Just... keep an open mind. Like I said before, we're not oppressors for you to demonize, just players trying to make the best and most fun game we can.  

Funny, I ended up scrapping 9 storming ideas for you guys.

It literally started off with some calling my ideas interesting, then you criticized, which I accepted, then you all started digging around for reasons to why I shouldn't have my characters in it.

All I wanted was for at least ONE of y characters to be accepted. I did accept the criticism, but it does get endearing when all you guys can do is be negative. I reckon some of you should look back, like you Blackhoof, i don't even remember seeing you.

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Thanks for the great feedback guys! If you all were more active in Creator's Corner, some great things could happen. Keep it up so I have a reason to answer your questions

I asked for feedback, I THANKED you guys for it. I welcomed the questions, as they helped develop my characters. I wanted to evolve them.

You even said Twi

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You have too many Epics for a new member. Since this game has a ton of Epics already, we've been telling new members to start with one Epic, though if the other GMs think Empathy and Diablo could go together, I could be convinced to allow two this time. 

I scrapped the rest because of this. I ACCEPTED the criticism. So I focused on Empathy and Diablo, which I thought were pretty damnation good.

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ok. I'm gonna throw him off the Honor Chasm. That is to say, he is a no-go.

That's what I said, and I APOLIGISED as well. Then I couldn't be bothered coming back. 

Bah nvm. I thought it would be fun. Disregard everything I have ever said. 

And Flaming Afro Man was meant to be a joke in world, just to break the monotony :/

[Blackhoof]

Great opening post bleeder! love it

 

Look, Darkness, I only vaguely remember many of your ideas, and the discussion around them. It was a while ago. But we never set out to trash characters for no reason, and we never target people like you seem to think we are doing. The process isn't always consistent, and isn't applied to everyone equally because of its informal nature, but the process exists all the same.

I'm genuinely sorry if we didn't accept any of your characters. I didn't necessarily share some of their concerns, but I understood that they had them. That is something we have to accept in this game. If we don't think your characters fit in, then they don't fit in.

But your attitude is all wrong and it isn't fair to be attacking us like this. 

[Darkness Ascendant he/him]

Just now, Blackhoof said:

Look, Darkness, I only vaguely remember many of your ideas, and the discussion around them. It was a while ago. But we never set out to trash characters for no reason, and we never target people like you seem to think we are doing. The process isn't always consistent, and isn't applied to everyone equally because of its informal nature, but the process exists all the same.

I'm genuinely sorry if we didn't accept any of your characters. I didn't necessarily share some of their concerns, but I understood that they had them. That is something we have to accept in this game. If we don't think your characters fit in, then they don't fit in.

But your attitude is all wrong and it isn't fair to be attacking us like this. 

ok.

So can Flaming Afro man join?

[Blackhoof]

Well you were rude and unapologetic towards us.

I don't think I want to play with you.

[Darkness Ascendant he/him]

ok, fair enough. I'll stick to SE

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

@Darkness Ascendant, if you're only here to complain about our criticism of your characters (after which you left of your own volition, I may add), submit yet another offensive character and complain about criticism of him, and try to pick a fight in present, then I'm going to have to ask you to leave. If you change your mind and become willing to accept criticism graciously, you may return. 

[marsoupial they/them]

8 hours ago, Blackhoof said:

Great opening post bleeder! love it

 

1 hour ago, Cognizantastic said:

@bleeder, I liked your first post. I'm excited to see what happened to Jude in the past and where his story goes.  

Thanks, guys! I'm glad you liked it. 

I'm going to be doing a lot of backstory for Jude before I try to get into the current-time action. 

[Kobold King he/him]

My father was explaining to me the riot situation in real-life Portland right now.

HIM: "You see, Portland's on a peninsula that has to be accessed from several bridges-"

ME: "Oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah. I know all this. Though I didn't think you could plausibly hold those bridges without zombie dinosaurs, personally."

[Quiver he/him]

Um.

Posted something out of canon; possible character idea. Hope that's okay? I figured if so, I could make tweaks necessary to turn it into proper canon.

Edited November 15, 2016 by Quiver

[marsoupial they/them]

21 hours ago, Cognizantastic said:

What do you plan for him to do in that current-time action of Portland? 

Not exactly sure. I'm gonna read up on what's currently happening, and work from there. Right now, though, he's still on the outskirts, remembering.

3 hours ago, Kobold King said:

My father was explaining to me the riot situation in real-life Portland right now.

HIM: "You see, Portland's on a peninsula that has to be accessed from several bridges-"

ME: "Oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah. I know all this. Though I didn't think you could plausibly hold those bridges without zombie dinosaurs, personally."

Zombie Dinosaurs are a vital part of any strategy ever. 

[breakingamber he/him]

On 11/15/2016 at 3:05 PM, Quiver said:

Um.

Posted something out of canon; possible character idea. Hope that's okay? I figured if so, I could make tweaks necessary to turn it into proper canon.

That was great! Like, the only WHOOC without an Epic in it.

That's really unique.

[Quiver he/him]

6 minutes ago, breakingamber said:

That was great! Like, the only WHOOC without an Epic in it.

That's really unique.

Technically, it had an epic sounding name, which might maybe count?

But considering it used all new characters in an all new state, it might be so far out of canon that it circledbackg around to being canon again.

But, thanks! kind of concerned about the writing so...glad it didn't totally offend?

[Edgedancer he/him]

On 17.11.2016 at 9:21 PM, Quiver said:

Technically, it had an epic sounding name, which might maybe count?

But considering it used all new characters in an all new state, it might be so far out of canon that it circledbackg around to being canon again.

But, thanks! kind of concerned about the writing so...glad it didn't totally offend?

There's definetly nothing against that post getting integrated into canon.

11 minutes ago, Cognizantastic said:

Quiver! Look at the upvotes. Look at the love for your characters and writing. Be confident, man! You're a great writer and a great addition to the community. Now take in the evidence and believe it.

Spoiler

 

[Quiver he/him]

7 hours ago, Cognizantastic said:

Quiver! Look at the upvotes. Look at the love for your characters and writing. Be confident, man! You're a great writer and a great addition to the community. Now take in the evidence and believe it.

 

7 hours ago, Edgedancer said:

There's definetly nothing against that post getting integrated into canon.

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Thanks! Sorry! I...

Yeah. I have the most terrible of confidence issues, so sorry about that. 

I have a lot of issues with regards my writing (I think because, in part, I'm not productive enough/lazy enough that my writing tends to be few and far between, so I simply don't have confidence buffer to work against stuff. Again, sorry about that!

...Also, am I the only one who gets the impression that certain anime move names are perfect for epic names? 

Edited November 19, 2016 by Quiver

[Edgedancer he/him]

7 minutes ago, Quiver said:

...Also, am I the only one who gets the impression that certain anime move names are perfect for epic names? 

Just imagine an Epic named Turtle Wave.