Shaukan-son-Hasweth Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 I read a topic about savantism being transferable by hemalurgy. I had another question but i couldn't find a thread about it. Can you become a savant,if the ability to burn the metal only comes from a hemalurgic spike? What happens if the spike is removed or replaced by an other spike that grants the same ability? I think in case of tin you would be expierence the same thing sppok had without it. But i have ni reason to believe so. What do you think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amulligan99 Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 I see no reason why someone can't be a savant with power granted through a spike. As for removing the spike there comes the question of does savantism get carried with the spike? Answer I don't know it might. This is definitely a question I want to ask Brandon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baby Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Well, if you remove the spike, you lose the power, so that'd disappear. As far as the effects it leaves on you, like Spook's sense loss whenever he stops burning tin, I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nervousnerd Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 In my mind hemalurgy gives you the same allomantic power that the spike has stolen. In that sense, you can become a savant. Then (because savantism is caused by/causes physical changes to your body) were you to lose your power, you would be left with the physical changes but not the allomancy power to reap the benefits of. So like Spook without tin but permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaukan-son-Hasweth Posted March 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 I see no reason why someone can't be a savant with power granted through a spike. Becoming a savant is your body beeing changed by preservation because you used so much of it's power. There's a WoB that states that the ascension is the same as beeing a lerasium savant. But vins earring keeps her from ascending even when she touches the well of ascension while wearing it. That's why i think there could be an interference between preservation and ruin somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nervousnerd Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Is there a WOB saying that it is preservation changing your body? Don't recall that. Seems like it is against his intent. That was specifically interacting with liquid preservation. Of course the earring causes a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Well, it's the power overflow from excessive flaring widening the cracks in your soul used to channel the power (the cracks themselves are from snapping), IIRC, so I guess with an atium savant (if one was stupid enough to do that) it's actually the power of Ruin that changes you. The spiritual realm exerts a pressure of sorts on the physical, constantly forcing it to conform (which some magic counteracts), so with an increasingly damaged soul your body is increasing changed from what you should've been as a human, but I suppose the wider crack would also mean you can get more power faster. Depends on where the crack lies, I would say; the person's soul, the portion the spike staples on to the person, or intersecting both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 The way I've always viewed savanthood: Imagine a pump pushing water through a tube. The pump is the allomantic ability, and the water coming out of the tube is the power output. A pump can work most efficiently at a moderate speed when it is not applying pressure to the pipe (standard burn), but you can flare your power, forcing the pump to speed up. When this happens, however, much more water is moving through the tide, forcing it to widen. Eventually, the tube will be so stretched huge amounts of water could easily flow through it, which would be savanthood. In this scenario, the power of the pump would represent your allomantic strength. Because hemarulgy reduces the strength of the power, the pump would inherently be smaller. This would make it more difficult for the pipe to be exposed to pressure and stretched the point of savanthood, but it would still theoretically be possible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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