TheLerasNosed he/him Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Please bear with me on this. I'm not sure this will end up making sense, but lets see where it goes. At the end of AoL, when Miles about to be shot, he yells out "You are fools!” Miles yelled at the firing squad. “One day, the men of gold and red, bearers of the final metal, will come to you. And you will be ruled by them." In the corrections to WoR, BS makes note to change the color of a dress the woman killed with Shallan's mother was wearing to Blue and Gold. I don't have an e-book so I can't search easily search for references, but I believe the color combination of Gold and Red also makes an appearance in Stormlight. Now I think it'll get a little convoluted. With another Shard appearing on Scadrial, (Trell or otherwise) it would have it's own God metal. That metal in theory would be the one that Miles is referring to, and with that metal, the colors Gold and Red are tied to it. I believe it's fair to assume that the "Men of gold and red" are part of a World Hopping Organization, or at least led by a World Hopper who is working for a Shard. Sanderson has gone back and made sure to lay evidence that the Woman killed with Shallan's mother was wearing Blue and Gold. It could be nothing, but if so, why change it? Is it too much of a stretch to conclude that she is part of an organization that goes by B+G colors? Now if G+R is working for a Shard, what Shard is B+G working for? Also are they allies or enemies? And if they're enemies, will B+G make an appearance in BoM or does their story in somewhere on Roshar? Thoughts?...if you've managed to follow my logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kynedath Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 I'd also like to point out that in Warbreaker, Lightsong's colours are red and gold. Large spoiler for Warbreaker Lightsong was also the one to sacrifice himself to heal Susebron and give him his tongue back, thereby saving Susebron, Siri and probably the rest Idriss. Just wanted to let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Lightsong the Bold... with the lost metal... I got nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 So I'm not the only one who sees blue and gold for that dress! Weirdos insisting it's white and gold or blue and black . . . 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrae Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Red is connected to Odium, so maybe it has something to do with that? I have no idea what blue or gold could be. It seems rather convoluted to have two opposing groups that share the color gold, especially if the colors are symbolic of something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Maybe the Southern Scadrians have atium somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLerasNosed he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Would "Ati"um still exist. Wouldn't any new metal like that be a "Sazed"ium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Atium probably exists, and harmonium (breaks the pattern, I know. Apparently Sazed likes the name better) is currently theoretical, but maybe not for long... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLerasNosed he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Red is connected to Odium, so maybe it has something to do with that? I have no idea what blue or gold could be. Is there a WoB that ties Odium to Red? I don't remember anything in the novels that say that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Well, red is the color of the spren the Listeners bond to get stormform, as well as the color of the Everstorm. I don't know of anything else, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Havoc Posted January 12, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 FWIW, I asked Brandon at a signing if Miles's 'men in red and gold' had anything to do with Lightsong's colours. The answer is "No." 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 FWIW, I asked Brandon at a signing if Miles's 'men in red and gold' had anything to do with Lightsong's colours. The answer is "No." That is very good to know. I'd give an upvote if I hadn't reached the quota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raykoda Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Men of red and gold?? They're obviously the Aiel, the People of the Dragon! /s 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC01 he/him Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I think that red=Odium and gold=Autonomy. I don't have a whole lot of evidence for that, but it's what I've been working with... Hopefully, BoM fills something in for us. Or maybe White Sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaIadin he/him Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 So I'm not the only one who sees blue and gold for that dress! Weirdos insisting it's white and gold or blue and black . . . Haha upvote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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