Lazarus52980 Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) I Never really thought about this until this morning. They do mention once in TFE that all inquisitors are male, but so far as I can tell, there is never a reason given (or implied as far as I can find). Anyone have any thoughts on this? Edited December 28, 2015 by Lazarus52980
Edgedancer he/him Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 I don't hink if we have an official reason but maybe Rashek wanted to keep them from breeding with each other? ...or he was just a sexist prick, honestly wouldn't suprise me at this point. 3
RenegadeShroom Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) There are at least female Inquisitors in the fight Vin had with them in Luthadel toward the end of the Hero of Ages, but Brandon believed that explicitly mentioning their gender during the fight would have been distracting. CHAOS Does being female alter the spiritual overlays on a person, so that a Hemalurgically imbued spike would need to be placed differently than in a male body?BRANDON SANDERSONNo. In fact, there are female inquisitors in the huge fight when Vin goes blasting through them, but he felt like bringing that out would have been distracting. This doesn't mention whether or not there were female Inquisitors before the Collapse, so I guess it's still entirely possible that TLR was... more discriminatory than Ruin was in his selections here. Though, given his comment about how Inquisitors are hard to replace, you'd think he couldn't afford to be picky. Edited December 28, 2015 by InsurrectionistFungus 4
Voidus Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Are there female Obligators? Because that'd be the obvious reason. 1
Plaeggs he/him Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 Are there female Obligators? Because that'd be the obvious reason. How so? I don't think that the Inquisitors were recruited solely from the obligators, anyone could be chosen. It was just easier for them to get obligators because they were open with their powers (within the Steel Ministry).
Voidus Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 How so? I don't think that the Inquisitors were recruited solely from the obligators, anyone could be chosen. It was just easier for them to get obligators because they were open with their powers (within the Steel Ministry). Pretty sure they were explicitly recruited from the Obligators, if they found a misting outside they'd probably be more likely to use them as a spike than an Inquisitor. Inquisitors needed to be completely loyal.
Edgedancer he/him Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 Are there female Obligators? Because that'd be the obvious reason. Except then the question would be why all the Obligators are male, so that wouldn't really solve the question.
natc Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 A lot of groups in history are traditionally all male. That's not much of a question.
Voidus Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 A lot of groups in history are traditionally all male. That's not much of a question. Yeah that was what I was going to say, Especially a group that is both religious leaders and the bureaucracy that runs the empire.
Edgedancer he/him Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 A lot of groups in history are traditionally all male. That's not much of a question. Sure and it's not a bad reason or anything. It's just that the exactly same reason could be applied to the Inquisitors directly, so if the answer is "sometimes that's how things are" then there isn't much point to going the extra step if you aren't going for a deeper reasoning.
natc Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 Inquisitors are basically a species though, that logic wouldn't directly apply. It only does because they also had to be priests.
Voidus Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 Sure and it's not a bad reason or anything. It's just that the exactly same reason could be applied to the Inquisitors directly, so if the answer is "sometimes that's how things are" then there isn't much point to going the extra step if you aren't going for a deeper reasoning. It could but I was just identifying that the ultimate cause is likely that the Obligators are male and hence Inquisitors would be as well since we don't really have a cultural comparison for elite magical assasin-warriors while we do have comparisons to Obligators which have traditionally been held by men.
MitchBade he/him Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 Since being spiked alters your sdna would the child of a male and female inquisitor have the potential to inherit all ofntheur stolen alloamntic/feruchemical abilities?
Stormgate he/him Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 Sanderson said that there would be complications.
Green Fire he/him Posted January 1, 2016 Posted January 1, 2016 I've always assumed that all Obglators were male and therefore all of Rashek's Inquisitors were male. Brandon has said that there were female inquisitors fighting Vin in her climax over Kredik Shaw. (She just didn't care all that much to think of them as anything other than inhuman.) It would make the most sense that Ruin scoured the Final Empire of Mistborn as the subjects to create these Inquisitors. We see no Mistborn except Vin and Elend after Ruin's release. (Who Ruin sees more as semi-independent subcontractors than rivals). Marsh mentions that he has the most spikes. It seems likely that many of the Inquisitors were newly created by Ruin, and it's far more efficient to use a Mistborn as the body of an Inquisitor rather than in the creation of a spike (that can only seal one attribute at a time). The Mistborn trait seems to not favor either sex, so about half of Ruin's additions should have been women. Elderly Mistborn or children were probably more likely than women to be used as the Atium or duralumin spikes for misting Inquisitors like Marsh, but perhaps a few women could could have met this fate as well. 1
Plaeggs he/him Posted January 1, 2016 Posted January 1, 2016 Yeah that was what I was going to say, Especially a group that is both religious leaders and the bureaucracy that runs the empire. Well, concerning this, the spikes and general presentation of the inquisitors would likely obscure/destroy all visible difference between the sexes.
Haradion Drogon Posted January 1, 2016 Posted January 1, 2016 Are we confident that there were no female Obligators? I am pretty sure that there were....
Voidus Posted January 1, 2016 Posted January 1, 2016 Are we confident that there were no female Obligators? I am pretty sure that there were.... All the main Obligators I can think of were male (Marsh, Vin's father, the one's Vin's gang were trying to con, Yomen), it might not be exclusively male but at the least I'd say it's a vastly male majority.
killersquirrel59 he/him Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 I remember a WoB at some point that said there were female Obligators. There is also a quote somewhere noting how sexism was much less of a thing in the final empire since no Noble House could afford to discount an Allomancer simply because she was female. You just have to look at Shan Alarial for proof of that. The Lord Ruler was a right bastard in many ways, but I haven't seen any evidence to support him being misogynist or sexist.
Voidus Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 I remember a WoB at some point that said there were female Obligators. There is also a quote somewhere noting how sexism was much less of a thing in the final empire since no Noble House could afford to discount an Allomancer simply because she was female. You just have to look at Shan Alarial for proof of that. The Lord Ruler was a right bastard in many ways, but I haven't seen any evidence to support him being misogynist or sexist. Well there was still some pretty heavily implied sexism, yes Noble houses used Allomancers but that's because they pretty much had to, TLR didn't need to extend his Obligator recruitment to women since Obligators don't need to be Allomancers.
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