Relytdragon he/him Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 i have an older topic of this that no one posts on anymore. i want to hear newer fresh ideas with new info we didn't have before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I stand by my conviction that Hoid told a joke so funny that Adonalsium laughed so hard that he split into sixteen pieces. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baby he/him Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I stand by my conviction that Hoid told a joke so funny that Adonalsium laughed so hard that he split into sixteen pieces. I dig it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC01 he/him Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 An idea I have entertained is that who/whatever held Adonalsium (and, no, we don't know that Adonalsium even was held by anyone or anything; I'm just going with the idea for the sake of my theory) was dead when the Shattering happened. In fact, that is why those involved were motivated to go through with the Shattering to begin with. Basically, I'm thinking that things were getting very weird in the Cosmere, with no consciousness guiding its governing force. In order to forestall a catastrophe (or maybe halt an ongoing one), some knowledgeable people got together to try to solve the problem. I'm assuming that this group of people included some or all of the original 16 Shardholders. So the Shattering was their solution, and I have a couple of ideas for why this might be. One is that the power was too great for any one person to handle, so they needed to break it up. Another is that they weren't actually trying to shatter it; they just needed to get cracks into it to so that someone would be able to access the power. If it's the latter, maybe it was just a total accident, or maybe schemers like Rayse and Bavadin intentionally hijacked the process so they could get their hands on some of the power. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 An idea I have entertained is that who/whatever held Adonalsium (and, no, we don't know that Adonalsium even was held by anyone or anything; I'm just going with the idea for the sake of my theory) was dead when the Shattering happened. In fact, that is why those involved were motivated to go through with the Shattering to begin with. Basically, I'm thinking that things were getting very weird in the Cosmere, with no consciousness guiding its governing force. In order to forestall a catastrophe (or maybe halt an ongoing one), some knowledgeable people got together to try to solve the problem. I'm assuming that this group of people included some or all of the original 16 Shardholders. So the Shattering was their solution, and I have a couple of ideas for why this might be. One is that the power was too great for any one person to handle, so they needed to break it up. Another is that they weren't actually trying to shatter it; they just needed to get cracks into it to so that someone would be able to access the power. If it's the latter, maybe it was just a total accident, or maybe schemers like Rayse and Bavadin intentionally hijacked the process so they could get their hands on some of the power. Your Idea works also without an "Adonalsium holder". If we think at Adonalsium as a "Galaxy-wide-shard". It may influence the entire Cosmere like a shard influence a single Shardworld. Without any Holder he begin to develop a sentience (that probably develop before to create everything) but without any active Intent he would probably be a passive force after the creation of everything. Everything allright until the things on Yolen went really bad and the Yolish in front of a Unamed Calamity decided to take the Colossal-Power to avoid Something. In this view maybe the Shattering was made because the "Aphaty-Intent" of Adonalsium will stop everyone how took the powers to do anything with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBambam Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 My personal theory is that the reference to the God Beyond is in fact Adonalsium, and that it was shattered by some unknown force equal to, or greater in power. I think that Hoid was close to the being, and when it shattered, that's where Hoid's loss, and his mission develops. Unfortunately, we don't know for sure if Hoid is in some way responsible for the shattering, or truly was there as only a witness. Hoid may not even be trying to piece Adonalsium together, but simply trying to save his friends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate he/him Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) Here is what I know of the Shattering: It was intentional A weapon was formed for the purpose of destroying Adonalsium Whoever or whatever Shattered Adonalsium is still out there Something I think is true is that the weapon that was used to Shatter Adonalsium is/was used by Odium to Splinter Shards. I think the weapon was aluminum. Edited December 10, 2015 by Stormgate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBambam Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Do you have a WoB or source stating that there was a weapon involved? I've never read that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I think it was Rayse. I feel like it would be in his character to kill the God of creation, then use 1/16 of his power to go around and kill a bunch of people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Do you have a WoB or source stating that there was a weapon involved? I've never read that There is a WoB about that Adonalsium's enemy biult a weapon. But we don't know if the weapon caused the Shattering or if it is used at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FormlessFox he/him Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I think it was Rayse. I feel like it would be in his character to kill the God of creation, then use 1/16 of his power to go around and kill a bunch of people. “He bears the weight of God’s own divine hatred, separated from the virtues that gave it context. He is what we made him to be, old friend. And that is what he, unfortunately, wished to become.” - Ch. 71 Words of Radiance My personal theory is that the 16 knew each other and for some reason Rayse who was described as already being a jerk purposely splintered Adonalsium and took the most powerful piece for himself. The others picked up the remaining shards to keep the balance of divine influence. The reply to Hoid's letter is from someone who feels like they have messed up the world enough as it is. Perhaps it is kind of like the Wheel of Time In the quest for knowledge/power they release powerful forces with horrible consequences (Lanfear and the bore) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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