adamlewis Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 What do you guys think that Clod, the Lifeless with Jewels, Denth, and Tonk Fah, was made from Arsteel's body? The book says that he was skilled with a sword. Arsteel was killed by Vasher, but Denth and the others at least saw the body, because they know that there were no black patches from Nightblood. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) Yes Clod is the Lifeless made with Astreel's body. Brandon confirmed this fact ;-) Edited September 30, 2015 by Yata 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipper Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Yes, Arsteel is Clod! Good catch! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charononus Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 This has me thinking. What kind of damage do those black patches indicate. I wonder if Arsteel had been killed by Nightblood, would they have been able to make his body into a lifeless or does nightblood damage the body too badly for that to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Astreel wasn't killed by Nightblood or at least not with the Nightbloodìs blade. The Tonk'fah stated that there isn't any black around Astreel's wound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordofsoup Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I believe that Clod is better than the average lifeless because Vasher killed him with a decent amount of Breath still in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I believe that Clod is better than the average lifeless because Vasher killed him with a decent amount of Breath still in him. Yeah about his Skill you have probably (quite surely) right. And don't forget that Astreel's Body used to be a Returned's body. With some degree of Improvement Strenght, Agility that may be still inside Clod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 The sad thing is, we don't know much about Returned Breaths. Maybe being made a Lifeless changed his body to a version of him with a suppressed Breath? His Breath was likely suppressed at the time of death, though, since Vasher gave him a lot of Breaths, which stunned him, that being harder to do at the 5th Heightening (The stunning, I mean). Thus, Arsteel was probably very skilled, but at human levels of expertise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 The sad thing is, we don't know much about Returned Breaths. Maybe being made a Lifeless changed his body to a version of him with a suppressed Breath? His Breath was likely suppressed at the time of death, though, since Vasher gave him a lot of Breaths, which stunned him, that being harder to do at the 5th Heightening (The stunning, I mean). Thus, Arsteel was probably very skilled, but at human levels of expertise. Probably you will remain with the body that you had at the time of death. Denth didn't became bigger and Lightsong din't became smaller. Probably when you die and your Divine Breath come back to Endowment, you lost the ability to change and your body remain like it was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ninja Yodeler Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Yeah about his Skill you have probably (quite surely) right. And don't forget that Astreel's Body used to be a Returned's body. With some degree of Improvement Strenght, Agility that may be still inside Clod. Didnt even think of that. I figured Clod was Arsteel while I was reading, but it never dawned on me that he was Returned when he died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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