DreamEternal Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Heh, just a habit I picked up years ago. If you were on the MacRumors forums 3-4 years ago (or earlier), you'd have seen it a lot probably, and a few other places. As for the truths/oaths, I don't think it was confirmed that 4 truths = 4 oaths, though, which is what was being commented on (that I may have implied unintentionally). I also disagree with CognitivePulsePattern's idea that Lightweavers progress unusually quickly; I think we're given an incorrect impression by how quickly Shallan is progressing now, but only because she is relearning rather than learning this all for the first time. She's a very broken, self-delusional girl who is nearly at the point of multiple personalities, and is going to take a long time to heal those wounds even with Pattern's help. jW I theorized Lightweavers progress unusualy fast at first, if not forced to supress memories and re-learn. For me it makes more sense than Shallan already having two big terrible secrets supressed and later acepted even before killing her mother. But currently I wouldn't say Shalkan is learning much faster than Kaladin. It is just that I think truths are only required for progression if the bond was damaged.
Jondesu he/him Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 I theorized Lightweavers progress unusualy fast at first, if not forced to supress memories and re-learn. For me it makes more sense than Shallan already having two big terrible secrets supressed and later acepted even before killing her mother. But currently I wouldn't say Shalkan is learning much faster than Kaladin. It is just that I think truths are only required for progression if the bond was damaged. I'm still working on my theory of how it works, but I think that while Truths are required for a Lightweaver to progress, they don't need to be contradictions of Lies they've told themselves. Rather, I think they must learn about themselves and speak Truths to progress, deep Truths about what they learn, but then if they put themselves in a position of having lied to themselves about who they are, that has the same damaging effect that Kaladin breaking his word and doing something dishonorable had, and they must them unbreak the bond by undoing the lies they told themselves. It's possible some of that is even unique to Shallan in a way, though I suspect any Lightweaver would have the potential for similar issues. That means that Shallan, at a young age, would have simply needed to become very self-aware and learn things about herself, not necessarily correct deep-seated lies about herself. Still difficult for someone who's only a child, but not nearly the same thing. Also, how old was she? I had been thinking 5-6 for some reason in my mind, but I think the timeline of the books implies she was more like 11-12 instead (but I could be entirely wrong about that). jW 1
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