Iarwainiel I she/her Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Note: I've only read WoK once, & sadly don't have time to search the forums thoroughly - thanks for being kind if I'm off-base. The Parshendi ARE the help that the Almighty sent (mentioned in one of Dalinar's visions). Their "armor" prevents the hive-mind control that normal Parshmen fall victim to. - - The dark sphere (that Gavilar gave Szeth) does summon thunderclasts. The Parshendi gave it to Gavilar to keep it from their non-armored cousins during the coming Desolation. - - But then why kill Gavilar? Maybe, as he interacted with him in the visions, the Almighty discovered that Gavilar was the "wrong" brother - from the descriptions of their personalities, he seems more over-aggressive whereas Dalinar seems more "Honor"-able, so to speak. So the Almighty chose the younger brother, and led (by visions?) the Parshendi to remove the elder one. This reminds me a little of the Jacob/Esau story in Jewish history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos he/him Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 That... is a very interesting theory. I'm not sure I'm sold on it, however. We don't really know enough about the Parshendi to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DariusJenai Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 My theories on the Parshmen/Parshendi: 1) The Parshendi are the Voidbringers of legend. The Parshmen are proto/infant Voidbringers. They have the potential to become Parshendi, but it requires something extra to make them so. If this is the case, either both groups must be functionally immortal, or able to breed true among themselves. 2) Gavilar's Dark Sphere has the ability to 'wake up' Parshmen into Parshendi, and to 'upgrade' Parshendi to Thunderclasts. He gave it to Szeth to keep it out of the hands of the Parshendi, trusting in the Shin sense of Honor. 3) Gavilar's murder was an attempt by the Parshendi to obtain the Sphere. Szeth was not ordered to bring them the sphere in order to keep him from realizing how important it was, and there was another who was prepared to remove the sphere from Gavilar's remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balor Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Sorry guys, but that is way beyond even 'Epileptic trees' . Parshendi being upgraded to thunderclasts? No in MY Brandon Sanderson book, that belongs to pulp fantasy. Bonus points if it is intentional trolling, though, I've fell for it. On the other hand, there is one question that begs to be asked - the chasmfiends are related to thunderclasts. We witness multiple acts of them 'pupating'. But does anyone actually witness, or is even remotely interested in what chasmfiend pupate INTO? It might be possible that into thunderclasts... but why we never witnessed one, after all - they've been pupating for a long time, some must evade the attention of parshmen (by the way, why they keep killing them? This is defintely something more to this, mush more) and pupate into... something. Defintely not parshendi tho, or they would try and protect the pupae, not destroy it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck he/him Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 But does anyone actually witness, or is even remotely interested in what chasmfiend pupate INTO? It might be possible that into thunderclasts... but why we never witnessed one, after all - they've been pupating for a long time, some must evade the attention of parshmen (by the way, why they keep killing them? This is defintely something more to this, mush more) and pupate into... something. Defintely not parshendi tho, or they would try and protect the pupae, not destroy it . now THIS is a vein worth exploring! good call! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyman he/him Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 We've tried exploring it in the past. Feel free, but the evidence is pretty slim, at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew the Great he/him Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Yeah. We had a pretty extensive discussion on the topic. About all we have to go on was the color of their blood is the same, they are described as looking the same, and Pokemon is canon. I agree that Chasmfiends -> Thunderclasts is the most likely option at the moment, but we really can't prove it just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emeralis00 she/her Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 I would rather go with DariusJenai on the Parshmen/parshendi theory. Since the Parshendi wondered what happened to the Parshmen's song when Dalinar first encountered the Parshendi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silus - Shard of Flame he/him Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Parshmen -> Parshendi -> ??? -> Chasmfiends -> Thunderclasts -> ??? -> PROFIT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos he/him Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 and Pokemon is canon. Parshmen -> Parshendi -> ??? -> Chasmfiends -> Thunderclasts -> ??? -> PROFIT! Well, we know Chasmfiends evolve via Thunder Stone... (Sorry, I couldn't resist) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bast Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 For one I'd like to side with old aggie. I think it would be too obvious for the Parshendi to be the "antagonists". Moreover, they somehow seem too intelligent to be "THE Voidbringers" to me, I've always imagined them as savage. Although I must say that I believe that the Voidbringers are not the worst part to the story, it's... this is only the first book, you should know better than to conceive the whole story's already said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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