shardsealer Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Hi All Just a quick question, are all brandon sanderson novels from now on part of the cosmere? I am confused whether steelheart and the rithmanist are part of the cosmere or not? I know that the alcatraz series and Legion are excluded from the cosmere. Thanks in advance for any replies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailliw73 Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 I am pretty sure they are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shardsealer Posted March 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 I am pretty sure they are not. ah....i was fairly certain about the rithamist but I was really confused about Steelheart, for some reason I remember reading somewhere that it is going to be part of the cosmere but I've never been able to find a link saying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Monstrosity Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Definitely aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashWrogan Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 I had the impression that the Rithmatist was? Now that I think about it, I can't remember hearing it anywhere, but I still have that feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubix Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 I had the impression that the Rithmatist was? Now that I think about it, I can't remember hearing it anywhere, but I still have that feeling. Nope. It's definitely not cosmere. Neither is Steelheart. Steelheart is set in a distopian future Earth, and Rithmatist is set on an alternate Earth. Brandon has said that nothing on Earth is cosmere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Last I heard, none of his young-adult works (Alcatraz, Steelheart, Rithmatist, etc) are part of the Cosmere. That might change in the future, but I don't think it has as of now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairJ Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 I had a thought the other day about this. Do you think it is possible that all of his "earth" and "alternate earth" books are somehow connected as they are not part of the cosmere? Brandon tends to be very sneaky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leuthie Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 I dont think so. He's prolific, but I don't thinks he's "multiple epic alternate universe" prolific. They are implemented ideas that keep him writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairJ Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Would be interesting nonetheless, though I do not see anything in the earth books that would suggest a link either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepene Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 The Cosmere takes place in another galaxy from ours. Our galaxy may or may not exist in their universe, but magically the cosmere galaxy seems to be self contained and has no connection to earth that we have seen. Most of his other novels take place in alternate versions of earth where some sort of magic exists. They are non Cosmere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubix Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 The Cosmere takes place in another galaxy from ours. Our galaxy may or may not exist in their universe, but magically the cosmere galaxy seems to be self contained and has no connection to earth that we have seen. Most of his other novels take place in alternate versions of earth where some sort of magic exists. They are non Cosmere. The cosmere is the name of the universe that all of the cosmere books take place in, not the name of the galaxy that all the planets are in. We don't have a name for that yet. It is, however, a "compact dwarf galaxy" that all of the action takes place in. Brandon has said that Earth does not exist in that universe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windrunner Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 The Cosmere takes place in another galaxy from ours. Our galaxy may or may not exist in their universe, but magically the cosmere galaxy seems to be self contained and has no connection to earth that we have seen. I think you've accidentally phrased this in a way that is unintentionally misleading. To clarify, the cosmere is not our universe minus our solar system, or even minus our galaxy. It's a totally unique universe completely distinct from our own. So, for example, you wouldn't be able to find the Magellanic Cloud or the Andromeda galaxy there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shardsealer Posted March 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 ah cool, makes sense now.....thanks a lot for your help guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meg Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) Just in addition as I found this: Sam Noble @samnoble@BrandSanderson Are Rithmatist and Steelheart cosmere novels?Öffnen Peter Ahlstrom @PeterAhlstrom@samnoble No source PS: it's from today Edited March 15, 2013 by Meg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepene Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 The cosmere is the name of the universe that all of the cosmere books take place in, not the name of the galaxy that all the planets are in. We don't have a name for that yet. It is, however, a "compact dwarf galaxy" that all of the action takes place in. Brandon has said that Earth does not exist in that universe. Could you cite that statement, that Brandon has said that Earth does not exist in that universe? A cite which includes a statement from Brandon I mean, not a cite to our wiki. Could you also cite the statement that the cosmere refers to the entire universe? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashWrogan Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 OTHER BRANDONI don't know if I'm remembering this right but I thought I saw somewhere that you said that all your books (yours not WOT) are connected somehow. Is that right or am I going insane already? BRANDON SANDERSON (GOODREADS)All of my books share a single creation myth, a single cosmology. The connection of them — the greater world, the greater universe — they call the Cosmere. There is a character who has shown up in each of my epic fantasies, and it is the same person, not just a repeated name. Currently Warbreaker, Elantris, and the Mistborn trilogy do all share a common cosmology. My children's books are not part of the Cosmere. Source I couldn't find anything directly referring to Earth being excluded from the Cosmere, but these suggest this. Of all the books I've written, I think this one hearkens most closely to our own world. Usually, when I develop cultures and languages, I try to stay away form basing them too closely on any one Earth society or race. Source ELANTRIS is similar. I threw in odd (for fantasy) plotting structures, but I let the air of 'standard medieval culture' remain in the book. (In fact, as I've noted, this is probably my most like-Earth book in that way.) Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windrunner Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Could you cite that statement, that Brandon has said that Earth does not exist in that universe? A cite which includes a statement from Brandon I mean, not a cite to our wiki. Could you also cite the statement that the cosmere refers to the entire universe? Nepene. Josh (Rubix), as well as Mi'ch (firstRainbowRose), live in Utah, go to Brandon's events all the time. They're friends outside of this whole fandom, Brandon talks to them and sometimes mentions stuff that doesn't get directly recorded in a signing. They're not doing reports on every conversation they have. If Josh and Mi'ch tell you that Brandon said something, without providing a source, that means Brandon said it directly to them. In addition to that, this tweet answers both your questions quite nicely. QUESTION: Are you planning to keep it strictly fictional or you intend to do something "meta" like Stephen King putting himself in? BRANDON: The cosmere is a distinct universe, and our world is not part of it. Source 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepene Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 (edited) Nepene. Josh (Rubix), as well as Mi'ch (firstRainbowRose), live in Utah, go to Brandon's events all the time. They're friends outside of this whole fandom, Brandon talks to them and sometimes mentions stuff that doesn't get directly recorded in a signing. They're not doing reports on every conversation they have. If Josh and Mi'ch tell you that Brandon said something, without providing a source, that means Brandon said it directly to them. In addition to that, this tweet answers both your questions quite nicely. Mm, I know they live in Utah. I would be entirely fine with them saying that they know it because Brandon said it to them. I've often seen people say "Brandon said x" referring to a quote on theoryland. I wasn't aware of their exact policy on that. Good to know. Edit. For the purposes of clarification, when I say "A quote on theoryland" I mean a quote that someone else got out of Brandon which they saw on theoryland or in an interview or whatever as opposed to something they heard directly from Brandon. I don't believe that theoryland makes a source more reputable on its own. And thanks for finding the quote. This clarifies the issue a lot. Edited March 17, 2013 by Nepene 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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