Possible 3rd/4th named Knights Radiant order

[Asha'man Logain]

I'm definitely in the 'Dustbringers are KR order' camp as well. The WoK prologue was through Kalak's POV after all, and the context/phrasing of the sentence about Dustbringers definitely lent the implication they were on the same side as him. 'The Dustbringers had done their work well,'....I dunno. Technically it COULD go the other way, but if Dustbringers were the enemy, I'd expect a little...animosity or something to have colored Kalak's thought.

LOL trust us to analyze seven words to death. Maybe someone can ask Brandon pointblank at a signing if the Dustbringers are a KR order to put us out of our misery?

As for Brightcaller, that sentence made it sound more like a singular entity rather than a plural order. I'd agree that Brightcaller is the name of the Herald for either the Lightweavers or the Skybreakers, though my money's on the Lightweavers. Stormfather, Brightcaller, Stonesinew, potentially Dustmother...it seems to fit.

Until now I had actually never even thought that Dustbringers could be an order of the KR. Perhaps is is just my, dark, sarcastic or wry sense of humor, but I'd always heard it in my head as a sarcastic remark. He is surveying the battlefield, looking upon the death and destruction. It seems to me one could make that comment about any battle field. One could say the same about the Japanese pilots at Pearl Harbor. If one were to walk up the pier, surrounded by the smoke and mostly sunken vessels, and say (or think) The Kamazi did their job well, not in admiration, but in acknowledgment of the near total destruction.

But hey, I could be (and often am) wrong.

EDIT- Spelling and grammar and capitalization. I was tired. lol

Edited March 13, 2013 by Asha'man Logain

[Mailliw73 he/him]

I just found Blightwind in a blurb(for lack of remembering the correct word) at the beginning of chapter 45, Shadesmar.

[Windrunner he/him]

Are you referring to Yelig-nar? He's an Unmade, which I think are the Voidbringer equivalent of the Heralds.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Oh, all right, thanks, I didn't know that, and yes, that's who I was referring to

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Taravangian mentions the "Lifebrother" and Szeth comments "that sounds like something one of your Vorin gods would do."

Could the Lifebrother be a Herald?

[Windrunner he/him]

That's what I've always assumed personally. It has the sound of "Stormfather" or "Stonesinew," both names for other Heralds. If I had to pick one, I'd say Ishar. He's the Herald of Luck, according to Kaladin which explains why Taravangian would mention him; he's lucky to have gotten Szeth's oathstone. Ishar is also a male, and attached to the essences of flesh and meat, which fit with the "Life" bit of Lifebrother.

[Martinitram he/him]

on the map of Alethkar there is the Sunmaker mountains which could potentially be linked to the supposed Order of Brightcallers or it could be that this Heralds title was Brightcaller and his Order was the Sunmakers.

 

It was my understanding that the Sunmaker was an Alethi king.  The king that in fact ended the Hierarcracy (spelling?)

 

However, this does not make Sunmaker the king, and Sunmaker the Herald (supposed) mutually exclusive.  

 

I have been absolutely intrigued on the hidden identities of the Heralds ever since I finished the book the 1st time, and this may actually fit.  Its possible, however, going on some of the a fore mentioned theories that the Brightcaller was a Herald and his/her order was the Sunmakers, and the Sunmaker (Alethi King) was actually a KR, perhaps the last Sunmaker?

[Worldhopper he/him]

It was my understanding that the Sunmaker was an Alethi king.  The king that in fact ended the Hierarcracy (spelling?)

 

However, this does not make Sunmaker the king, and Sunmaker the Herald (supposed) mutually exclusive.  

 

I have been absolutely intrigued on the hidden identities of the Heralds ever since I finished the book the 1st time, and this may actually fit.  Its possible, however, going on some of the a fore mentioned theories that the Brightcaller was a Herald and his/her order was the Sunmakers, and the Sunmaker (Alethi King) was actually a KR, perhaps the last Sunmaker?

 

Its possible, the Sunmaker did challenge the Ardents regarding their prophetic claims from the Almighty.

 

And it is possible the Sunmaker could have discovered remnants of KR Orders or at least knowledge regarding their abillities. The Sunmaker may have discovered what his abillities meant and their link with the KR and so named himself after that Order.

 

Or could he have been a Herald?

 

If so, why insight the Hierocracy?

 

What information did this Sunmaker have that made him so sure the ardents were wrong or lying?

 

Unless he was a Herald or was being fed information from one. Maybe he had discovered or knew knowledge of those times.