11thorderknight Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 So, maybe I'm just being very, very dense, but I'm still a little bit confused. Who was writing the "prophecies" on Dalinar's wall throughout Words of Radiance? I know there's a theory that it was Renarin, because he started writing zero's on the wall at the very end, but if you read all the other scenes it makes it sound like he had no opportunity to do so. Dalinar at one point was convince he himself was doing it in his sleep. What's the consensus, and could someone please explain it to me? Or is this still a mystery? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unodus he/him Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 I always thought it was Dalinar, writing it while he was witnessing prophecies :V Although, now that you mention it- Renarin writing them would also be a reasonable explanation.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxal she/her Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 My personal idea is Renarin wrote them and used the Illumination surge to hide himself from the prying eyes. My thoughts are he was trying to warm his family of the impeding Everstorm, but could not bring himself to be more straight-forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgedancer he/him Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 We do see Renarin having visions at the end of WoR, so it would make for him to be the one that wrote them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11thorderknight Posted May 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) My personal idea is Renarin wrote them and used the Illumination surge to hide himself from the prying eyes. My thoughts are he was trying to warm his family of the impeding Everstorm, but could not bring himself to be more straight-forward. I thought about this, but remember, Illumination doesn't let you become invisible, you have to hide inside the illusion of something else. At least, that's as much as Shallan can manage, and she's far further along with it than Renarin. He can barely admit to himself that he's a surgebinder. It would be very inconsistent for him to have enough skill with Illumination to sneak into Dalinar's (locked!) room, keeping himself both unseen and unheard, and then get his butt kicked in the dueling arena when he jumps in to help Adolin. Edited May 10, 2015 by 11thorderknight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Star Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 It was Renarin. When the countdown got to zero, he started to carve another message inside of the transportation fabrial. I think that it was simply that nobody was paying attention to him at earlier points in the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxal she/her Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 I thought about this, but remember, Illumination doesn't let you become invisible, you have to hide inside the illusion of something else. At least, that's as much as Shallan can manage, and she's far further along with it than Renarin. He can barely admit to himself that he's a surgebinder. It would be very inconsistent for him to have enough skill with Illumination to sneak into Dalinar's (locked!) room, keeping himself both unseen and unheard, and then get his butt kicked in the dueling arena when he jumps in to help Adolin. I think we, the readers, have a false sense as to how advanced Renarin is in terms of surgebinding. Do not forget Glys was articulate enough, by the end of WoR, to tell Renarin he was a Truthwatcher, a feat Syl did not managed until Kal said the second oath. Besides, Radiants seem to progress differently and each seemed to have a stronger affinity with one surge. It could be using Illumination to hide himself comes more naturally for Renarin than Shallan. There is also the fact Shallan is repressing a lot and has blocked herself. It is also one thing to sneak in one place, but it is another one to withstand a fight in an arena with a screaming Blade. The two do not compare: when he wrote the signs on the wall, nobody was threatening him and nothing was yelling in his head. Besides, writing glyphards used a skill Renarin already possessed whereas fighting/dueling is a skill Renarin does not have, worst in book text points towards him not being very good at it, despite his obvious handicap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11thorderknight Posted May 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 How did he get inside the room while it was locked though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Anamaximder he/him Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 He is a Radiant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamEternal Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) Maybe he has the key, it is his family's palace after all. Edited May 11, 2015 by CognitivePulsePattern 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unodus he/him Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Pattern could unlock locks, as he saw them as "a pattern", maybe Glys is capable of doing something similar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsecaller3414 she/her Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 That is very likely. However, if it isn't Renarin, then we can still rule Dalinar out because there were other people (namely Navani) in the room with him when he had his visions. That is, if it would happen during visions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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