Voidus Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 New Collaborate/Neverthere post up.Thought it might be about time for her to let her personality show a bit more. 1
Haelbarde he/him Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) Great, Brandon answeres questions and I'm asleep. Hitting Astoria with a nuke wouldn't really be that smart of a move. All the really troubelsome Epics would survive and then just create even more destruction, because they are forced outside their old habitat. Be it by conquoring a new city or by just roaming. I don't think we really know enough to assume a "usual" for Obliteration. Yes his save house in Babilar was still in town but that was at least in part so Regalia could give him directions. And do you guys know what that means for the RP? Seems to me that either the member of the Coven will have children or we get a happily ever after jump with David and Megan in the future. So what happens if they (are just using someting gender neutral or does he give people the power?) look at something large like a house that isn't really in one specific direction of them or they have more than one object in their sight, both of which is very likely to happen? Been using it as gender neutral, but I've now come up with a name: '(Homing) Miss Isle'. I think that's awesomely tacky enough to be epic worth so I'll say they're a she. It'd be what they focus on, if they are focusing on anything, otherwise it'd be in the direction they're facing. With a house (presuming you're outside of it), imagine each point on the surface of the object is pulling her towards it. Most of the components not perpendicular to the surface of the object would likely cancel, other than some vertical components. It probably has a centering affect. Inside, it'd be more a wall would be the 'object'. General question about powers - how much does the power depend on the individuals perception of the world as opposed to how the world really works? For instance, if she wore sunnies, she has an object (the glasses) covering her vision. However, she doesn't focus on them, rather what she see's through them. Is there any precedent for if her perception trumps how physics works? Edited May 19, 2015 by Haelbarde 3
Blackhoof Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 I don't think we really know enough to assume a "usual" for Obliteration. Yes his save house in Babilar was still in town but that was at least in part so Regalia could give him directions. oh no, I meant Iconoclast. He keeps pieces of himself around all the time so he can regenerate from them, but random limbs tend to decay/get eaten relatively quickly, so they are usually only in his vicinity. So a nuke would likely get all of them, and with nowhere to regenerate from he would be gone for good. Been using it as gender neutral, but I've now come up with a name: '(Homing) Miss Isle'. I think that's awesomely tacky enough to be epic worth so I'll say they're a she. It'd be what they focus on, if they are focusing on anything, otherwise it'd be in the direction they're facing. With a house (presuming you're outside of it), imagine each point on the surface of the object is pulling her towards it. Most of the components not perpendicular to the surface of the object would likely cancel, other than some vertical components. It probably has a centering affect. Inside, it'd be more a wall would be the 'object'. General question about powers - how much does the power depend on the individuals perception of the world as opposed to how the world really works? For instance, if she wore sunnies, she has an object (the glasses) covering her vision. However, she doesn't focus on them, rather what she see's through them. Is there any precedent for if her perception trumps how physics works? The precedent is of ignoring perception, for weaknesses at least. whatever the reality is, that is what happens. Of course, there are not iron-clad rules, so if you want to clarify that shades don't count for her, then that is that. Your call.
Voidus Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Been using it as gender neutral, but I've now come up with a name: '(Homing) Miss Isle'. I think that's awesomely tacky enough to be epic worth so I'll say they're a she. It'd be what they focus on, if they are focusing on anything, otherwise it'd be in the direction they're facing. With a house (presuming you're outside of it), imagine each point on the surface of the object is pulling her towards it. Most of the components not perpendicular to the surface of the object would likely cancel, other than some vertical components. It probably has a centering affect. Inside, it'd be more a wall would be the 'object'. General question about powers - how much does the power depend on the individuals perception of the world as opposed to how the world really works? For instance, if she wore sunnies, she has an object (the glasses) covering her vision. However, she doesn't focus on them, rather what she see's through them. Is there any precedent for if her perception trumps how physics works? There are physics equations for determining what the focal distance of a lens is so physics-wise it's entirely possible that it'd ignore sunglasses.
Haelbarde he/him Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) There are physics equations for determining what the focal distance of a lens is so physics-wise it's entirely possible that it'd ignore sunglasses. Bah, physics. (Ignoring, of course, the fact that I'm a physics major and I've done a few segments on optics and lenses). I'm divided on whether it'd be cool to do a Cyclops (x-men) style glasses thing (except she flies instead of shooting lasers out of her eyes), or saying that glasses is too easy a fix. Thinking I'd go with that clarity of an object is important, and sunnies are reducing the amount of light reaching her eyes, so is seeing the object less clearly. Normal sun glasses might slow it down a bit, but not significantly. She'd needs to be practically blinded or focusing on something super close (so actively on the lenses themselves). Again, crosseyed means she stops. And yeah, I think I'll make it all about her focus. And if she's not focusing on anything, it's just the direction her eyes are pointing at a slow hover. Edited May 19, 2015 by Haelbarde
Blackhoof Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Depends how she views her power- if she has mastered it, full-on Cyclops glasses that can "turn off" her power wouldn't really be necessary. But if it is a constant annoyance from her perspective, then it would be strange that she hasn't figured out a way to stop them.
Haelbarde he/him Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 and also, upvote for Miss Isle hahaha Woo! Someone likes it! Yeah, I thought it was amusing, and hey, it still beats The Pink Pinkness. Depends how she views her power- if she has mastered it, full-on Cyclops glasses that can "turn off" her power wouldn't really be necessary. But if it is a constant annoyance from her perspective, then it would be strange that she hasn't figured out a way to stop them. I think I'll go with sunnies do block it. I'll have a think and try and write up like a character sheet (with a succinct explanation for how it works) tomorrow some point. Going to call it a night for now.
Blaze1616 he/him Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Honestly, at that point the elemental aspect pretty much doesn't matter anymore. Most everything is going to be blown away or killed by the shockwave outright before the fire is going to do any damage. Especailly if she can keep that up over the distance. The strenght isn't really a problem but it just really makes the elemental powers pointless in most situations and with that take away the flavour. My intention was for the grenade level of force to only be possible at minimal distances. But your point is valid. This limitation existed so that she'd have a means of fleeing if combat got too up close and personal. I'll give it some more thought, perhaps redefine the force limitations to be weaker, but not diminish as a function of distance. There's an Epic I've been thinking about making a part of the Corvallis government. (Sort of. He'd be better described as an 'interested third party.' As such he might float around a little between the cities. And he's more than likely to play both sides of the conflict, as well.) Accord/Witness: (Haven't quite decided yet.) Primary Power: Witnessing: Can make any contract between two parties binding. Binding as in they are physically compelled to carry it out; neither can break it, even if they want to. They are also compelled to comply to any additional terms (IE, penalties for not completing their part of the contract) if necessary. Contracts are rendered void if the participants do not sign of their own free will. (Under duress is fine, but it Hypno or another mind-control Epic were to force someone to sign, it wouldn't work.) Secondary/Passive: Teleportation: Can instantly teleport to anywhere he has previously been. Both of these abilities may be gifted, to up to twelve people while retaining power himself. (So thirteen total.) MO: Having no offensive powers to speak of, he will give his services to any who ask, but he always exacts a price for his services. (Often hidden in large amounts of legal jargon within the contracts.) His end goal is to slowly gain power and resources until he controls Corvallis, and eventually Oregon. At the moment though, he only has a few dozen vanillas and a small handful of minor Epics in his service, and the current chaos seems like a perfect opportunity to increase his power. Do you think he could work/add an interesting element to the overall storyline, Comatose? The issue with this Epic is that Blossom would advise Rainmaker to not deal with him. She'd be very adamant about it, and would explain all the potential failings of such a partnership (and there are a lot of them). The only way Blossom would ever be okay with this Epic would be if Rainmaker had a deal in which the powers could be abused in the way Blackhoof described. Your response of the price being too high would mean Blossom would be totally against it. Obviously it is up to Comatose to decide whether Rainmaker would heed Blossom's warnings or not. As for my other Queens, Buttercup would like this Epic, until he proved himself to be working all sides of any conflict, and Bubbles would avoid him like the plague.
Blackhoof Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 I'm not an Epic, but if I was, that sort of guy is the last one I would want in my city haha. Not only does he not submit to my domination, but he could ferment resistance against me with his contracts easily. Trouble would be how to get rid of the bugger....
Edgedancer he/him Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 I'm not an Epic, but if I was, that sort of guy is the last one I would want in my city haha. Not only does he not submit to my domination, but he could ferment resistance against me with his contracts easily. Trouble would be how to get rid of the bugger.... Yeah, I like the idea of binding people to their word, I actually have one similar in Voidus' list of Epic ideas, but given the general mind-set of Epics someone like that would probably work best as the top dog in the city. 1
Blaze1616 he/him Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) I'm not an Epic, but if I was, that sort of guy is the last one I would want in my city haha. Not only does he not submit to my domination, but he could ferment resistance against me with his contracts easily. Trouble would be how to get rid of the bugger.... That would be a simple contract. "You don't help or start any kind of rebellion or coup against the Queens, and I will make sure you always have a place to stay here in Corvallis." That seems beneficial to all parties, and keeps him from actively working against the Queens. It would obviously take the form of a document, with many possible loopholes of the above summary being specified and ironed out. The penalty for breaking would likely be death, or loss of powers, or some other very serious consequence. That, however, is a discussion to have later, once we know if the Epic is joining Corvallis. One issue, though, is that the idea of having Corvallis's timeline be set in the "past" in reference to the other threads. It sounds like one of Aonar's ideas was to have the Epic jump from city to city. That would not be possible if Corvallis is set during a different time. Yeah, I like the idea of binding people to their word, I actually have one similar in Voidus' list of Epic ideas, but given the general mind-set of Epics someone like that would probably work best as the top dog in the city. Agreed. Edited May 19, 2015 by Blaze1616
Blackhoof Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Hmmm that presents quite the dilemma. That means we can't move it faster than the other threads at all, nd they would all have to stay at the same pace (which works for the other threads, but maybe not for C
Blaze1616 he/him Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Well, characters leaving Corvallis is not an issue. The player would simply need to come up with something for the characters to have done during the time jump. Ex: Chase leaves Corvallis, stays in hiding in case Rainmaker sends anyone to hunt her down, appears in the Dalles a week(s) later. The real problem is if characters from other threads want to move to Corvallis. 1
Voidus Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Well, characters leaving Corvallis is not an issue. The player would simply need to come up with something for the characters to have done during the time jump. Ex: Chase leaves Corvallis, stays in hiding in case Rainmaker sends anyone to hunt her down, appears in the Dalles a week(s) later. The real problem is if characters from other threads want to move to Corvallis. It'd be the other way around actually. Moving to Corvallis would just need to come up with a reason the character took so long to reach there, moving from Corvallis means you have to wait for the other threads to catch up to the right time which could be months.
Blaze1616 he/him Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) It'd be the other way around actually. Moving to Corvallis would just need to come up with a reason the character took so long to reach there, moving from Corvallis means you have to wait for the other threads to catch up to the right time which could be months. The idea was for Corvallis time to be in the past with respect to the other threads. If it were the future you'd be correct. Edit: Regardless of which decision is made, past or future, the issue is a one way issue, with the other way having a simple solution. Edited May 19, 2015 by Blaze1616
Edgedancer he/him Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 It'd be the other way around actually. Moving to Corvallis would just need to come up with a reason the character took so long to reach there, moving from Corvallis means you have to wait for the other threads to catch up to the right time which could be months. Mostly it would depend on position and moving speed of Corvalis relative to the others. Wheter it's before or after. However the real real problem would come from moving back and forth. Whatever direction the character would have to make the travel too, getting back would always mean one of them has to catch up.
Voidus Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Was it? I thought it was to have it move faster so things progressed more on an intrigue level, with plots happening over multiple days.
Blaze1616 he/him Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Was it? I thought it was to have it move faster so things progressed more on an intrigue level, with plots happening over multiple days. Which is why initially it would be set in the past, but with a faster rate of plot movement, and so would potentially catch up to, and then pass by, the other threads. So both directions would be an issue, just they'd be an issue at different points in the thread.
Voidus Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Having it already be set in the past has some potential issues, namely that we haven't referenced anything about Corvallis at all, with Epics moving about the state so much word would reach the Dalles, Portland and Astoria within a few days that for example, Euphoria has been kidnapped.
Kobold King he/him Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Having it already be set in the past has some potential issues, namely that we haven't referenced anything about Corvallis at all, with Epics moving about the state so much word would reach the Dalles, Portland and Astoria within a few days that for example, Euphoria has been kidnapped. True, but would most of our characters really care enough to have mentioned it? We could retcon things so that Altermind and Vondra are aware of things that happened there, but simply haven't had any reason to show off their knowledge.
Blaze1616 he/him Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 I'll be honest, I haven't read the other threads to completion. Would Corvallis, a city whose ruler is actively keeping it separated from the rest of the world, be much news to the characters of the other threads? Isn't the point of Corvallis to be a place in which Epics and vanillas go, and most don't leave? So unless one of the characters came from Corvallis, would the news really reach outside the bubble? Or at least beyond the crowds wanting to enter Corvallis? I actually don't know, which is why I'm asking if it's feasible.
Voidus Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 True, but would most of our characters really care enough to have mentioned it? We could retcon things so that Altermind and Vondra are aware of things that happened there, but simply haven't had any reason to show off their knowledge. Not necessarily no, but it might limit the narrative somewhat, plus things would eventually get reversed, with Corvallis not having any mention of things in the other threads. Portlands eventual destruction for instance should be mentioned and Corvallis will probably be weeks ahead by that point.
Edgedancer he/him Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 I'll be honest, I haven't read the other threads to completion. Would Corvallis, a city whose ruler is actively keeping it separated from the rest of the world, be much news to the characters of the other threads? Isn't the point of Corvallis to be a place in which Epics and vanillas go, and most don't leave? So unless one of the characters came from Corvallis, would the news really reach outside the bubble? Or at least beyond the crowds wanting to enter Corvallis? I actually don't know, which is why I'm asking if it's feasible. For one Corvallis does need a certain amount of emigrants for simple logistic reasons. The bubble means there is a hard limit to how many people can be placed in town without it getting crowded. Furthermore, with both Euphoria disappearing and Iconoclast's attack there certainly will be a large number of people fleeing and with that also spreading word.
Voidus Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Plus the whole point of setting up the government as it is is to advertise it, to make more people come to Corvallis.
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