Modern jobs for Metallic Arts?

[kinxer he/him]

Ninja'd in regard to the second WoB. A question I'm curious about is whether Brass stores and taps the actual heat in a Feruchemist's body. Could a Firesoul with a great deal of stored heat cook an egg (for example) on their hand? How about boiling water with only their extreme body heat? Could they sort of dry-clean their clothing by getting soaked then becoming extremely hot (soundless wasteful, but I guess it would work if you worked/lived in a hot environment)? All the questions.

 

Sparker (Zinc ferring) field linguists (the mental speed would help with processing the phonology of new languages while transcribing).

Steelrunner magicians (lightning-fast hand movement).

 

EDIT: Was looking through the Theoryland Feruchemy stuff (same link as above, in LabRat's reply), and I found the answer to my question:

 

CZANOS

If a Feruchemist Taps warmth, does it actually warm them up physically, or do they just feel warmer?

BRANDON SANDERSON

It actually warms them. It’s not just a feeling.

Edited May 11, 2015 by kinxer

[Creecher he/him]

Pardon my sick mind, but bloodmakers are built to film gore films with a minimal special effects budget.

Edited May 11, 2015 by TenzinKendrick

[kinxer he/him]

Pardon my sick mind, but bloodmakers are built to film gore films with a minimal special effects budget.

Quite true. Honestly, they're just built to handle ridiculous punishment in general. I feel like an Allomantic pewter-Feruchemical gold Twinborn (Bruteblood, according to the incomplete list of Twinborn names) could be a straight-up action hero (for example, running straight at a group of gunmen/coinshots and just taking the bullets in stride before beating them to death or unconscious with his/her own hands...).

 

Also, an Allomantic pewter-Feruchemical tin gymnast or traceur. They could burn Pewter and store balance while not training or performing and then tap it in addition to burning Pewter later.

[Redbird he/him]

Where is this incomplete list of twinborn names?

[Master_Moridin he/him]

 

WoB:

http://www.theoryland.com/intvsresults.php?kwt=%27feruchemy%27

THOUGHTFUL SPURTS

If tapping heat means your own body gets hotter, does it also mean you become immune to hot temperatures so long as you're tapping it, or should you fill heat and grow colder for that to happen?

BRANDON SANDERSON

As everything in Feruchemy, you become immune to the effects of the ability only. Like weight doesn't crush you, but at the same time doesn't have a net gain in strength. Growing colder, however, would be more helpful in this regard.

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So no lava-swimming, but a brass ferring would still make an above-average firefighter since they'd be virtually immune to heat stroke and potentially wouldn't have to wear as much protection.

 

Also for Brass ferring: Arctic/Antarctic researcher

 

 

 

Yes, but no. The storage limit is based on 100% of your available resources, so the more resources available the faster you store. A feruchemist with a fever/suffering heatstroke could store heat faster than one with hypothermia, for example. (Note that storing 100% of certain things, like healing or breath, will likely kill you/knock you unconscious)

 

WoB:

(same link as above)

SATSUONI

How is heat a mental attribute in Feruchemy?

BRANDON SANDERSON

Because I messed up. I don't know if I've mentioned this before, but that power was supposed to be swapped with another one. (You might be able to guess which one.) However, by the time I realized my mistake, it had already been canonized in print in the trilogy, so I was stuck with it. I've been tempted to go back and correct the error, but it reaches pretty far back. People drawing upon warmth is mentioned in the first book. One thing to keep in mind, however, is that in general the 'physical, mental, etc' things are applied by people--they are boxes that people investigating the magic have used to describe it.

 

 

 

Ninja'd in regard to the second WoB. A question I'm curious about is whether Brass stores and taps the actual heat in a Feruchemist's body. Could a Firesoul with a great deal of stored heat cook an egg (for example) on their hand? How about boiling water with only their extreme body heat? Could they sort of dry-clean their clothing by getting soaked then becoming extremely hot (soundless wasteful, but I guess it would work if you worked/lived in a hot environment)? All the questions.

 

Sparker (Zinc ferring) field linguists (the mental speed would help with processing the phonology of new languages while transcribing).

Steelrunner magicians (lightning-fast hand movement).

 

EDIT: Was looking through the Theoryland Feruchemy stuff (same link as above, in LabRat's reply), and I found the answer to my question:

 

Oh okay.  I remembered him talking about how the error was canonized but I didn't know the rest.

 

Rioters and Smoothers could probably find decent work going around with politicians to manipulate the emotions of who they're speaking to.   Similarly, Smokers to prevent politicians from being manipulated during important meetings.

[Guest]

Could a Firesoul with a great deal of stored heat cook an egg (for example) on their hand? How about boiling water with only their extreme body heat? Could they sort of dry-clean their clothing by getting soaked then becoming extremely hot (soundless wasteful, but I guess it would work if you worked/lived in a hot environment)? All the questions.

I'm wondering if you would actually injure yourself doing these things. You are immune to the heat of your body, but that cooking egg is going to apply it's own heat back onto your skin. Same with the boiling water, you'd potentially cook yourself with external heat that originated inside yourself.

[natc]

Most of the heat from the egg might flow into the air instead because heat normally flows to where there is less of it.

[Guest]

An object radiating heat does so in all directions. An egg in a fry pan is radiating heat back into the pan, but at a slower rate than the metal is radiating heat into the egg, so in a normal setting this is irrelevant.

Feruchemy changes this however, as the source of the heat now matters. Does heat from a Feruchemist that has been transferred into an object retain it's "memory" of being from the Feruchemist? Or just burn the poor guy, like any hot object would?

[kinxer he/him]

Where is this incomplete list of twinborn names?

I forgot where it came from here, but through the wonders of keyword searching, here is the post where I found it: http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/19184-twinborn-names/?p=189678

The list is, as the post says, from the MAG.

 

 

An object radiating heat does so in all directions. An egg in a fry pan is radiating heat back into the pan, but at a slower rate than the metal is radiating heat into the egg, so in a normal setting this is irrelevant.

Feruchemy changes this however, as the source of the heat now matters. Does heat from a Feruchemist that has been transferred into an object retain it's "memory" of being from the Feruchemist? Or just burn the poor guy, like any hot object would?

Your "swimming in lava" quote from above seems to suggest that the Feruchemist/Ferring would be burned by the egg or water, but I was under the impression that, from a thermodynamics standpoint, there's no heat exchange between two objects of the same temperature. I guess it comes down to us not knowing.

 

And, to add to the original topic:

Skimmer rescue divers (using Feruchemical iron to change their functional density (assuming this is how it works) in water to affect their buoyancy).

[HalfShard he/him]

So, what kind of superheroes would be in Scadrial comics/movies? Mistborn are, of course, a must-have, but a lot of people have powers already. Super strength is already normal, super senses are too, and some might consider emotional Allomancy to be a form of mind control. What's left for superheroes?

[Guest]

Your "swimming in lava" quote from above seems to suggest that the Feruchemist/Ferring would be burned by the egg or water, but I was under the impression that, from a thermodynamics standpoint, there's no heat exchange between two objects of the same temperature. I guess it comes down to us not knowing.

 

Thermodynamics, as I understand it, would state a zero NET exchange of heat. So if 2 objects that were each radiating 100(pick a unit) were pressed together, the equation would be:

Object 1: -100 + 100 = 0

Object 2: -100 + 100 = 0

Therefore, there is a measurable heat exchange of 0.

 

Ironically, if I'm right, this would mean a Firesoul would be capable of being burned by something much colder than themselves.

[the Gleeman he/him]

So, what kind of superheroes would be in Scadrial comics/movies? Mistborn are, of course, a must-have, but a lot of people have powers already. Super strength is already normal, super senses are too, and some might consider emotional Allomancy to be a form of mind control. What's left for superheroes?

You could have a team of savants in metals similar to the X-men and could also have  Kandra or Koloss heroes/villains. Any hero that is not necessarily humanoid could also work along with magic or supernatural based characters. It would be an interesting idea to theorize on its own. 

[Guest]

So, what kind of superheroes would be in Scadrial comics/movies? Mistborn are, of course, a must-have, but a lot of people have powers already. Super strength is already normal, super senses are too, and some might consider emotional Allomancy to be a form of mind control. What's left for superheroes?

"The Tripleborn"

Not only can The Tripleborn heal from any injury (Gold Compounder), he also has the ability to (insert any allomancy/feruchemy)

[AerionBFII he/him]

Gold Compounder = Chuck Norris sparing partner.