emilylime she/her Posted April 19, 2015 Author Posted April 19, 2015 Ehidnas, because I am a zoohemalurgist, and no one expects them to be spiked. oh jeez lol!! has anyone accepted an echinda yet?!
Redbird he/him Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I don't usually offer them, but they are available upon request. Would you like one?
emilylime she/her Posted April 20, 2015 Author Posted April 20, 2015 Uh... I'll pass... thanks though...? heh....
Argent he/him Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) Are we not going to talk about how the title of this topic practically screams sexual innuendo? EDIT: Not that I object. Just sayin'. Edited April 20, 2015 by Argent
emilylime she/her Posted April 20, 2015 Author Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) well I didn't mean it like that. Sorry for anyone who thought so too Edited April 20, 2015 by Lady Eowyn
Quiver he/him Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Damnation Argent. Now my innocent pony eyes can't unsee it. Side note: Eowyn is awesome, and one of my favourite characters in fiction. So cool username!
emilylime she/her Posted April 20, 2015 Author Posted April 20, 2015 thanks! Eowyn is indeed amaziing~
Quiver he/him Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 "I am no man" is the best line in fantasy literature. I think that moment is my favorite in the entire trilogy, and one of my favorite moments in literature, period. 2
emilylime she/her Posted April 21, 2015 Author Posted April 21, 2015 For real, though. Gives me shivers. I feel like the movies didn't quite do Eowyn justice, though it's not as bad for her as it is for poor Faramir heh...
Argent he/him Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 "I am no man" is the best line in fantasy literature. I think that moment is my favorite in the entire trilogy, and one of my favorite moments in literature, period. Really? I always thought it's one of the worst ones...
emilylime she/her Posted April 21, 2015 Author Posted April 21, 2015 Really? I always thought it's one of the worst ones... can I ask why?
Argent he/him Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 It felt like a super cheap solutions to the problem of defeating the Witch-King. The scene only works in English and other languages where "man" and "human" or "person" are synonymous. The line itself, I suppose, is good - it's the scene, the resolution to the problem, that doesn't work for me.
Quiver he/him Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 I'm actually fine with the resolution of the scene- but I admit, a large part of that is because I read LotR at about the same time I read MacBeth. From what I understand, Tolkien dislike how metaphorical some of the aspects of that play were; I definitely remember reading somewhere that, as a child, he was disappointed when the forest marching on Macbeth's castle were just soldiers in forest garb, rather than trees... and then presumably that led to him making actual, walking trees to take down Isengard. I assume the same can be said for the Eowyn sequance (being a woman v cesarean birth)... but I also think it's a bit cooler. I admit, I love female action heroes. I love it when a female character is awesome*, and I think the "no man can kill me" setup works really well because up to this point in the book (and, really, in Tolkien's contemporary culture) women soldiers are unheard of. Everyone thinks Eowyn is bizarre for wanting to go to war. That set up, of all male armies, enforces the Witch Kings position... and then he gets taken down. I like it. *when it's done well, like Eowyn or Vin. Too many novels include "bad chull warrior women" that are awful, but thats not what this is about. 3
Argent he/him Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 It's possible that my background as non-native English speaker is making this weird for me. I can't hear "no man" and not instinctively think of a male - so a woman killing the WK is obvious, not a surprising, but foreshadowed development of the plot.
Mistrunner Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 I'm actually fine with the resolution of the scene- but I admit, a large part of that is because I read LotR at about the same time I read MacBeth. From what I understand, Tolkien dislike how metaphorical some of the aspects of that play were; I definitely remember reading somewhere that, as a child, he was disappointed when the forest marching on Macbeth's castle were just soldiers in forest garb, rather than trees... and then presumably that led to him making actual, walking trees to take down Isengard. "I am no man" was inspired by Macbeth! Tolkien considered Shakespeare to have cheated with the whole cesarean section thing, as they're still born of a woman. I kinda agree with him on that one... I never knew about the Ents/soldiers thing, though. That's really interesting! We've really derailed from welcoming a new Sharder, though. 2
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