eefara Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 These are a bit random; I've been re-reading the trilogy and a few questions popped out at me. I keep seeing people say that Marsh needs Atium to keep living, and I assume this was from WoB, as I don't recall seeing anything regarding this in AoL. Could someone point me towards the right one, or perhaps elaborate? How was Ruin able to affect memories stored in copper? We know that he was unable to read thoughts and and unable to see things set in metal, so I would have thought that thoughts set in metal would have been double unavailable to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Hoodie Mistborn he/him Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 TLR was using Atium Feruchemy and compounding it to get immortality. Marsh is able to do the same with all the additional spikes that Ruin added to him while under his control. Effectively the memories stored in a coppermind, as we understand it are almost the same as having them written down. Ruin could both see and alter them, as they are no longer stored in the person's mind, nor are they actually inscribed in metal, so they were available to Ruin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 These are a bit random; I've been re-reading the trilogy and a few questions popped out at me. I keep seeing people say that Marsh needs Atium to keep living, and I assume this was from WoB, as I don't recall seeing anything regarding this in AoL. Could someone point me towards the right one, or perhaps elaborate? How was Ruin able to affect memories stored in copper? We know that he was unable to read thoughts and and unable to see things set in metal, so I would have thought that thoughts set in metal would have been double unavailable to him. 1- He only needs Atium if he wants to live forever like the Lord Ruler did by compounding his age to stay eternally young. Alloy of Law takes place several hundred years after Mistborn so the only way Marsh could still be alive is by compounding his age which requires Atium. 2- Feruchemy is a system that is derived from both Shards so being partly of Ruin he's able to influence it a bit. He doesn't usually alter writting directly anyway, usually he waits until something is being transcribed so it seems that he mostly just messes with peoples perceptions a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaeggs he/him Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 I thought that inquisitors, due to their heavy bodily modifications, naturally lived 100 years. I seem to remember something in the 1st book about this, when the inquisitors are first being introduced. I also remember a part saying something along the lines of how TLR made 3 new species, Koloss, Kandra and Inquisitors, implying that Inquisitors are an entirely different species. It was during a part talking of his hemalurgic experiments, and that in the 1000 years of his rule, he had only managed to create 3 species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkum he/him Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 To add on to what others have said: 1. Atium Ferruchemy allows you to store age (or rather youth, I guess, since I think pulling from it is what decreases your age). atium compounding, therefore lets you decrease your age to pretty much whatever you'd like, since you get back more than you put in. however, you need more and more of the stored youth to keep you the same age (i.e. to appear 20 at age 50, you need 30 years, but at age 300, you need 270 years) so as you age you need more and more atium just to keep up. The way the Lord Ruler did this is explained in the first book, confirmation that that is what Marsh is doing here:http://www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=727#3 2. Having trouble finding a source for this, but my understanding is that since Ferruchemy is partly based on Ruin's power (it is a combination of Ruin and Preservation) when a ferruchemist goes to store a memory into a metalmind, or take one out, he can alter them. I am not sure he can actually change them once in the coppermind, but as long as he can do it when they come in or go out, it doesn't matter. and since the memory being stored is erased from the ferruchemist's mind, they will not be able to recognize that it has changed, especially if their written documents are altered as well. Patchwork: Inquisitors are essentially a different species by this point. Their bodies have been modified significantly (in order to allow them to survive spikes in places that shouldn't be survivable). As for lifespan, it varies a bit, they are very difficult to kill, but it is mentioned that they have to be replaced from time to time, so most of them aren't normally immortal, especially since The Lord Ruler prefers to keep some things, like atium compounding, secret/away from them. Some of Marsh's spikes come after the Lord Ruler is gone, otherwise he'd have tried to stop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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