The Pits

[Unhinged he/him]

There was Nobility that escaped, surviving the final Ascension. The Nobles have proven to be a greedy lot, hoarding their Atium. It's conceivable that many of them would have taken their Atium with them. But once Mistborns were gone, there was no point to the nuggets. They were no longer worth kingdoms. I'd beat there's still Atium floating around somewhere.

 

Well we know Marsh has a bunch that he's using to extend his life but i'm not sure if there are any other pieces floating around.

 

One thing that Brandon has told us is that the people of the south make extensive use of Hemalurgy since Atium is the most useful metal for this art I could see how the people of the south might covet it. But I don't have any idea how they would get it since the pits are in the north and there is an ocean between them... I suspect that the pits will eventually start producing Atium again, heck for all we know it's already begun and this will lead to war between north and south.

[hoidhunter he/him]

Well we know Marsh has a bunch that he's using to extend his life but i'm not sure if there are any other pieces floating around.

 

One thing that Brandon has told us is that the people of the south make extensive use of Hemalurgy since Atium is the most useful metal for this art I could see how the people of the south might covet it. But I don't have any idea how they would get it since the pits are in the north and there is an ocean between them... I suspect that the pits will eventually start producing Atium again, heck for all we know it's already begun and this will lead to war between north and south.

Once again...I am inclined to agree

[Oudeis he/him]

Can someone show me this WoB about southern Hemalurgy?

Also I'm not sure but i think i see some confusion arising. There are two mentions that might be getting conflated. Miles speaks of the bearers of the 'final metal'. The fourth book is tentatively titled 'the lost metal'. I think some people are saying atium might be the lost metal, but others think the first people are saying it's the final metal.

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Southern Scardians don't use Hemalurgy, they use, Allomantic Fabrials. I Think we have a WoB on this. I'll edit it in If I can find it.

 

EDIT: Found it (Source)

NEPENE ()

You've said you want to write a book set in the southern continent. I did enjoy The Emperor's Soul a lot, so I am curious about you writing that future book. How do they use magic differently, and why should we be excited about reading a book set there?

BRANDON SANDERSON

The southern continent is where people have discovered how to harness the metallurgic arts in a more mechanical method. (I've hinted several places that this is possible. I've been holding off doing it until we go here.)

NEPENE

Ooh, cool, ferugolems? Do you have any hints for us where we should look for these hints of how you can use it in a mechanical fashion? I haven't reread the Mistborn books in a while.

BRANDON SANDERSON

The hints are things I've said in interviews, not so much in the stories. (Sorry for not being clear about this.)

CHAOS2651

About the southern continent, would it be possible for other Scadrians to discover this method of using the Metallic Arts, or is it unique to the southern Scadrians?

BRANDON SANDERSON

It is technology-based rather than genetics based.

Edited December 20, 2014 by The Only Joe

[WeiryWriter he/him]

The only WoB we have about the Southern Scadrians is that they use technological versions of the Metallic Arts.  We do not have (or at least I have not seen) any WoB about them being focused on Hemalurgy (though that is a speculation of mine) neither does it restrict it to only Allomancy-fabrials.

[mail-mi he/him]

My theory is that Harmony will have to create the Pits of Hathsin and, by extension, Atium, again, if he wants to stay as Harmony. As we know, Ruin is the stronger shard, because the people all have bits of Preservation inside of them. If he doesn't make the Pits and get rid of some of the excess Ruin, he'll stray more and more to the Ruin side of Harmony--something I don't think Sazed wants to do, considering what he saw Ruin do during Final Empire times. So Harmony will have to create Atium to equal out Preservation's and Ruin's influence over him. 

[WeiryWriter he/him]

I agree that Harmony has to do something with the excess Ruin but I vehemently disagree with the idea that the Pits are the only way to do that.  It's a pretty big assumption that they are the only way to produce atium.  They were originally created by Preservation to forcibly remove investiture from Ruin without his permission, and in a way that he would have absolutely no control over.  I personally believe that Harmony could just spontaneously manifest atium, in controlled amounts (not an on-going process), after all where do we think lerasium came from?

[Oudeis he/him]

I actually have a theory that Harmony will create a tiny little mini-Ruin. He'll take the excess portion of Ruin in his own Investiture, and spin it off in a Splinter. I think it will manifest as a dark mist spirit, absolutely bent on world destruction, but that Harmony's intent will allow him to exert his power to nullify how much effect it can have, reducing it to something humankind can counter on their own. Just random speculation.

 

Also, we know that the Southern Scadrians are basically some classic Scadrians from Alendi's time that Rashek kept somehow as a genetic reserve in case Plan A crashed and burned. As such, we should expect them to be an evolution of what we know of the culture of Classic Scadrial. This would include hemalurgy, since we know Alendi had hemalurgic spikes as the Piercings of the Hero. It's possible that these were the only spikes in all of Southern Scadrian culture, but it's also possible it was something that appeared at least a few more times in other religious rites. Recall that Ruin had been manipulating prophecies and people in an attempt to gain more control, so it would not be out of character for him to try to manipulate others in power into giving themselves hemalurgic spikes. There might be some independent reason why he was unable to accomplish this task, but we know he succeeded at the very least with the Hero of Ages himself, so I'd personally find it unlikely that he was unable to convince a High Priest or two to wear spikes. They might not know they're practicing hemalurgy, but I suspect that they are.

[Unhinged he/him]

The only WoB we have about the Southern Scadrians is that they use technological versions of the Metallic Arts.  We do not have (or at least I have not seen) any WoB about them being focused on Hemalurgy (though that is a speculation of mine) neither does it restrict it to only Allomancy-fabrials.

 

I could have sworn that I saw a quote that mentioned that they used a crude form of Hemalurgy to power their technology but I haven't been able to find it, maybe I'm just going crazy...er.